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The wife and I just got back from the family cabin in Pettigrew Arkansaw, here's a few pictures.
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I'm sure you know that they have become a hot topic on some of the FB pages locally (if you even mention them, about 50 self-appointed land police will remind you that they are on private land, etc), and that one of them collapsed.

I'm relatively new to this area of AZ, but it's my understanding that they have been "private property" for decades, but enforcement was lax. The new owner(s) have been much more aggressive in trying to keep people out...to the point of calling sheriffs and supposedly brandishing a shotgun.

I went once, about a year and a half ago...shortly before they became a hot topic again. I saw all sorts of older posted signs after I was already there, so at that point, I stopped, took some pics, and left and will not be returning. They are cool relics, but the beautiful terrain surrounding them is even more so, and open to exploration...so no point in breaking the law and drawing the ire of the owner with so much else to explore.
Was checking out the location of the Coke Ovens on the map and there is private land to the east by the overlook that is posted, but it looks like you can still come in from the NW and stay on State/Federal land.
 
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Was checking out the location of the Coke Ovens on the map and there is private land to the east by the overlook that is posted, but it looks like you can still come in from the NW and stay on State/Federal land.
You might want to check out the Pepsi Ovens instead 🤣🤣
 
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Was checking out the location of the Coke Ovens on the map and there is private land to the east by the overlook that is posted, but it looks like you can still come in from the NW and stay on State/Federal land.
What kind of maps were you using?

All I know is the one time I was there, I came in on martinez canyon road from the west, but went down to the ovens from the east (down the hill), and at the bottom of the hill, if I recall, there were damaged, old looking posted signs and fencing. I thought these were from some point in the past, as there was a steady stream of SxS's/Atvs making the trip. When I left, I continued the "loop" back up to martinez canyon road, leaving to the west, and crossing some of the same fencing/signage.

Shortly after, there were PSAs on facebook about them being private property, supposedly at the request of the owner/caretaker. And then several stories of people be accosted by said person. Whoever it is has been doubling down on keeping people off the property. One of the ovens also collapsed a while back. Of course, that hasn't stopped anyone from going to them...
That said, I know of no one who has had any issues with the surrounding trails like martinez/Rincon/Cochran road.

I will note, however, that the last time I crossed the river to the east, near the old townsite, the gate (simple barbed wire, in this case) that is always open, was closed, and had wires in a way as to discourage opening it (below and above the upper, and lowest strands, respectively). This is probably a mile east of the ovens, and had been done in that previous week. I honestly never even knew there was one there. I rewired the gate properly, went through, and closed it behind me, and headed east.
I ask about this on Facebook pages, but got no real response. I put it off as ranch hands who didn't know better, but I haven't been back since to see.
 
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What kind of maps were you using?

All I know is the one time I was there, I came in on martinez canyon road from the west, but went down to the ovens from the east (down the hill), and at the bottom of the hill, if I recall, there were damaged, old looking posted signs and fencing. I thought these were from some point in the past, as there was a steady stream of SxS's/Atvs making the trip. When I left, I continued the "loop" back up to martinez canyon road, leaving to the west, and crossing some of the same fencing/signage.

Shortly after, there were PSAs on facebook about them being private property, supposedly at the request of the owner/caretaker. And then several stories of people be accosted by said person. Whoever it is has been doubling down on keeping people off the property. One of the ovens also collapsed a while back. Of course, that hasn't stopped anyone from going to them...
That said, I know of no one who has had any issues with the surrounding trails like martinez/Rincon/Cochran road.

I will note, however, that the last time I crossed the river to the east, near the old townsite, the gate (simple barbed wire, in this case) that is always open, was closed, and had wires in a way as to discourage opening it (below and above the upper, and lowest strands, respectively). This is probably a mile east of the ovens, and had been done in that previous week. I honestly never even knew there was one there. I rewired the gate properly, went through, and closed it behind me, and headed east.
I ask about this on Facebook pages, but got no real response. I put it off as ranch hands who didn't know better, but I haven't been back since to see.
Those were from the public land layer on Gaia.
 
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Thinking of trying Gaia. I really like the looks of their free map.
There’s a long learning curve to full utilization with Gaia. I’m going to try to include a screen shot of the area around the Coke Ovens which the map indicates is U.S. Bureau of Reclamation. When we were there, only went to end of yellow line.

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SW of Denver. I didn't realize how big these steps are until I walked around taking pics, 2 - 4'. :oops: My line is just this side of the trees in the foreground, up and down.
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Fun but short downhill, the shade hides the 'texture'. I drug the front bumper in the bottom right.
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There’s a long learning curve to full utilization with Gaia. I’m going to try to include a screen shot of the area around the Coke Ovens which the map indicates is U.S. Bureau of Reclamation. When we were there, only went to end of yellow line.

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So...are the "clear" sections supposed to be private land?
 
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So...are the "clear" sections supposed to be private land?
Yes, the areas shown that look like they’re more satellite view are privately owned areas. Maps for our areas show USBR, BLM, State Trust, Nat Forest and Wilderness clearly. If you get the app, you can touch the area and description of public land control pops up.
 
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