Stealth Snorkel Examples - Honda Pioneer 1000

[ripHST]

There have been lots of snorkel examples lately. Figured I would add another.
You will also find this same option and a few other in the DIY Snorkel thread here - DIY Snorkel

This style I am calling a stealth snorkel because it requires no modification to the the unit and can be easily reverted in a few seconds. The only issue I personally have is a prefilter but several users have found a solution. I will post those also.

Supple list :

• Spectre Performance 8741 Black 3" Air Duct Hose - Amazon.com: Spectre Performance 8741 Black 3" Air Duct Hose: Automotive
• 2.75" To 3" Coupler Reducer Silicone Hose - Amazon.com: Mishimoto MMCP-2530BK Black 2.5" to 3" Transition Coupler: Automotive

Insulation is easy.

• Remove the black cover.
• Install the silicone reducer
• Insert the hose
• Run the line. I ran mine center between a metal bar up under the dash.

It was a tight fit so I did not see a need for a clamp. But if you don't check your rig often you should consider a hose clamp or something. I also found no need to seal the hose. It too was a tight fit and I see very little probability of water getting past it.

I never have plans to go this deep. But I have found myself fairly deep by mistake. I also like to run through creeks fast on a hot summer day and after hearing about all the water entry trouble I figured this might save me a hefty bill.

Hey @Hondasxs .....I'm thinking I'll do something like this. Thanks for posting. I noticed the link for the 3" to 2.75" reducer brings me to a 3" to 2.5" reducer. I can find a 3x2.75" on Amazon as well....can you confirm which one you used? The measurements on the Amazon listing are confusing.

 

[Admin]

 

[Big_Daddy]

do you guys see any issue with the intake pulling in much hotter air up in behind the dash? I've heard people complain about how hot it is behind the dash and hot air coming in around the shifter and stuff. Just curious if that's an issue and if it's major.

 

[chadbo]

do you guys see any issue with the intake pulling in much hotter air up in behind the dash? I've heard people complain about how hot it is behind the dash and hot air coming in around the shifter and stuff. Just curious if that's an issue and if it's major.

I never noticed it and it did well for dodging splash water but I had a close one this past weekend and I'm going higher, not to go looking for trouble but as the sand started sinking on me my beer started tasting like puke in my mouth, I got lucky

 

[Big_Daddy]

Where do u guys buy the frog skin material?

 

[chadbo]

I didn't have it, I put a filter on the end

 

[JTW]

Where do u guys buy the frog skin material?

@Hondasxs had some at one point

 

[Stevo]

Uni Filter 2-stage Angle Pod Filter 58mm I.d. X 102mm Length Up4229ast Amazon.com: Uni Filter 2-stage Angle Pod Filter 58mm I.d. X 102mm Length Up4229ast: Automotive

Heres the filter

2"x 3" fernco coupling
2" pvc street elbow and a short piece of 2" pipe

I turned down the 2" pvc (2.375 OD) to 2.25" OD help the filter go on and off better for maint.

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I really like your idea of a snorkel. Did you leave the uni filter dry or oil it. I just wonder if oiled would it restrict too much air. If oiled did use uni filter oil.

 

[Hondasxs]

Hey @Hondasxs .....I'm thinking I'll do something like this. Thanks for posting. I noticed the link for the 3" to 2.75" reducer brings me to a 3" to 2.5" reducer. I can find a 3x2.75" on Amazon as well....can you confirm which one you used? The measurements on the Amazon listing are confusing.

Your right. I fixed it to this one - http://amzn.to/2qWgHhU
Just went to measure to make sure. 2.75 ID is what you need.

@Big_Daddy, I haven't noticed any issue. But I do see your logic.

FROGSKIN...
Sorry. Sold out!
Do we have several buyers? I could order more and split it up?

 

[Badsob982]

I really like your idea of a snorkel. Did you leave the uni filter dry or oil it. I just wonder if oiled would it restrict too much air. If oiled did use uni filter oil.

Oiled it. I used air filter oil I have been having for years.


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[Big_Daddy]

it would be sweet for someone in the aftermarket to make a replacement hood with a raised cowl that could be ducted to the intake. wouldn't need to be extreme like a drag car or anything. doesn't seem like it would be all that difficult if someone had the resources.

 

[Big_Daddy]

trying to envision one of those tiny fake hood scoops that look so cheesy on these ghetto fast and furious dodge neons turned around backwards and mounted to a p1 hood essentially making it a cowl. seems like you could run the same flex hose to a 3" flange in the hood covered by the "scoop". Maybe connect the hose the the flange with a quick release hose clamp to make getting the hood off easier.

might have to try it. found a scoop on amazon for $10 Amazon.com: Aumo-mate New Universal Car Air Flow Intake Scoop Turbo Bonnet SUV Vent Cover (Black): Automotive , so worst case scenario i pissed away $10. wouldn't be the first time and certainly won't be the last for that. The scoop is 10 inches long and 7 wide. ~1.5" tall

Other idea is to try it forward facing and cover the flange with frogzskin to prevent water from coming in and have a sort of ram air intake. Not sure if that would hurt things or not performance wise though (i.e. make it run lean from more air and no programming to increase fuel to make up for it)

 

[ripHST]

Your right. I fixed it to this one - http://amzn.to/2qWgHhU
Just went to measure to make sure. 2.75 ID is what you need.

@Big_Daddy, I haven't noticed any issue. But I do see your logic.

FROGSKIN...
Sorry. Sold out!
Do we have several buyers? I could order more and split it up?

Thanks @Hondasxs . Based on your info, I ordered an elbow in the same dimensions. I was thinking I would just turn it and use rigid PVC to go back, but now that I have it I'm thinking it might not clear if I decide to put a second battery in. I'll mess around with it and try to come up with something.

 

[ripHST]

trying to envision one of those tiny fake hood scoops that look so cheesy on these ghetto fast and furious dodge neons turned around backwards and mounted to a p1 hood essentially making it a cowl. seems like you could run the same flex hose to a 3" flange in the hood covered by the "scoop". Maybe connect the hose the the flange with a quick release hose clamp to make getting the hood off easier.

might have to try it. found a scoop on amazon for $10 Amazon.com: Aumo-mate New Universal Car Air Flow Intake Scoop Turbo Bonnet SUV Vent Cover (Black): Automotive , so worst case scenario i pissed away $10. wouldn't be the first time and certainly won't be the last for that. The scoop is 10 inches long and 7 wide. ~1.5" tall

Other idea is to try it forward facing and cover the flange with frogzskin to prevent water from coming in and have a sort of ram air intake. Not sure if that would hurt things or not performance wise though (i.e. make it run lean from more air and no programming to increase fuel to make up for it)

I'd like to see this....and hear it. I bet it would sound pretty good.

 

[Big_Daddy]

I'd like to see this....and hear it. I bet it would sound pretty good.

Me too, but I just can't make myself believe that it's really a good idea. For now I think I'm just going under the dash. Looks like in and towards the passenger door you can get a little higher behind the glove box

 

[Redmist]

I used Badsob982 design for a snorkal. Dumb question is there enough air under the hood to not restrict air flow?

I did find a Fernco 2" x 2 1/2" fitting that fit perfect. The 3" bulged out trying to get tighten down.

Great information on the site, thanks

 

[sharp]

View attachment 44065 I used Badsob982 design for a snorkal. Dumb question is there enough air under the hood to not restrict air flow?

I did find a Fernco 2" x 2 1/2" fitting that fit perfect. The 3" bulged out trying to get tighten down.

Great information on the site, thanks

Yes there is plenty of air.

 

[truc577]

Very inexpensive and easy peace of mind.
Sewer pipe, filter material and a rubber fitting.
I like the flex hoses and pre-filter above - but i used what I had.
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Ghost does the hood go down all the way with that 3" 90* ABS? I'm getting my parts list together and I'm thinking Ill do your setup with a frogzskin on the end vs the filter material. Unless someone has experience with the frogzskin getting a dust film and clogging the air flow to much?

 

[ghost]

Ghost does the hood go down all the way with that 3" 90* ABS? I'm getting my parts list together and I'm thinking Ill do your setup with a frogzskin on the end vs the filter material. Unless someone has experience with the frogzskin getting a dust film and clogging the air flow to much?

Yup - it fits.
That first elbow contacts the hood and one side of the hood needs to be pushed down about 1/8 inch to close it. I could probably get it fit 100% but havent bothered. Not that fussy - lol.

 

[truc577]

Yup - it fits.
That first elbow contacts the hood and one side of the hood needs to be pushed down about 1/8 inch to close it. I could probably get it fit 100% but havent bothered. Not that fussy - lol.

Cool I switched to 3" sch 35 its has a 1/4" smaller diameter. I think Ill add an inside pipe drain vent to help support the frogskin fabric. Waiting on a 2.75 to 2.75 coupling and the frogzskin. Oh and yeah I need my pioneer as well!! Ill post when all parts come in.

 

[ghost]

Cool I switched to 3" sch 35 its has a 1/4" smaller diameter. I think Ill add an inside pipe drain vent to help support the frogskin fabric. Waiting on a 2.75 to 2.75 coupling and the frogzskin. Oh and yeah I need my pioneer as well!! Ill post when all parts come in.

Good ideas. I would be tempted to put the frogskin over the pipe and put a coupling over it to hold it in place.
Might need to sand out the coupling so it fits good and drill a small hole in the coupling for a pin to hold it over the pipe.