Trailer advice for a newbie with a 1000-5?

[Rayger143]

I have to agree with @NH Rider and @oldfortyfive . A vehicle with only 5000 lb towing capacity is light in my opinion. I've towed my P1K5 with my Toyota Tacoma which is 6200 lb towing capacity and would never go any farther than a few miles on level ground. The truck has the power but it feels too light like it could be pushed around easily. I have an old F250 I use and feel much more safer and relaxed when towing. Welcome to the club from BC! Nice buggy and best of luck on your towing setup.

 

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[100Acre]

Just an idea. I went with a tandem axle so I could possibly avoid changing a tire on the side of the road and a blowout would mean less chance of losing control. I have a beaver tail so the gate can be smaller. And Blackwood deck that is non slip, even when wet. I have trailer brakes, a Warn 4500 pound winch with wireless remote, fold down aluminum step and a custom detachable handle that fits in the stake pockets to help me climb up and down. The gate is heavy and I have a Double Barrel lift assist that uses a chain drive. It's easy to lift and lower. Sorry if it's too many pics.View attachment 419017View attachment 419018View attachment 419019View attachment 419020View attachment 419021View attachment 419022View attachment 419023View attachment 419024View attachment 419025View attachment 419026

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How long is your trailer?

 

[100Acre]

I’m looking to get a dedicated sxs trailer. Currently I have my 22’ foot hauling my excavator with the tilt bed for loading but that’s way to big for just one Honda. I also have a 6.5 x 14’ Dump trailer but it’s too high in the air. I’m leaning towards a tandem axel. I’ve had a blowout towing the 500 across Kansas in 104* temps And on a single axel. It wasn’t an easy fix. Make sure the springs are rated too. I snapped mine in Colorado.

 

[Mudwisel]

Lots to think about and thanks for all the suggestions. Now I’m thinking of just going with a quality single axle, 12 foot trailer to keep the weight down. That will handle 90% of my needs and trips of 60 miles or less. Question: I don’t see many trailers like this with brakes. Are they just necessary with this size of trailer? Can they be added as an option?

I have used my Single axle for 600mi round trips for 20 years. Even some longer trips. It gets loaded down at times. Buy a good quality trailer and maintain the axle bearings. You will be fine

 

[Driftless]

Now I can’t stop looking at trailers, ha. Anyone have opinions on the Floe Cargo Max? The 13 foot double axle only weighs 930 pounds. Has brakes. Seems like a good match for a Ridgeline.

 

[TxDoc]

How long is your trailer?

14 feet

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[Jankyeye]

Now I can’t stop looking at trailers, ha. Anyone have opinions on the Floe Cargo Max? The 13 foot double axle only weighs 930 pounds. Has brakes. Seems like a good match for a Ridgeline.

CargoMax™ Trailer

Look like an ABS box on an aluminum frame. No experience with them, interesting design for small tow vehicles.

 

[NTCPrezJB]

CargoMax™ Trailer

Look like an ABS box on an aluminum frame. No experience with them, interesting design for small tow vehicles.

Call me a skeptic but I wouldn’t consider one for hauling a SxS.

 

[GovtMule]

I did purchase a 6 1/2 x 12 Aluma brand tandem last spring. Sold my single axel (same measurement) that I’d had for 10 years and made money on it. Didn’t have any issues but that’s not to say they aren’t possible. So far I love the tandem and the brakes it has.

 

[Vikes79]

I have a steel 12’ PJ trailer that has been quite good for what it is. I like the fact it has bigger tires, leaf springs and has a crazy strong bifold gate with assist springs on it. My particular model has removable sides as well.

Sorry I don’t have a picture of just it alone. My p1k5 fits nicely on it…but not much extra room for anything else.

 

[Vikes79]

Now I can’t stop looking at trailers, ha. Anyone have opinions on the Floe Cargo Max? The 13 foot double axle only weighs 930 pounds. Has brakes. Seems like a good match for a Ridgeline.

Light weight aluminum frame with a torsion axel and a poly tub…sounds like it’s better suited as a yard cart.

IMO steel single axel trailer wins across the board.

 

[CID]

A few random thoughts since you're new to SxSs.
1. Being new to SxSs myself 'back then', I had no idea where I was going either. I was lucky enough to get invited to Sand Hollow by another new Talon owner before I owned mine, he had a 14' trailer and, it was clear, that the additional length could be handy. If you have the room to store it, 2 extra feet only weigh a few pounds when deciding between 12' or 14'. Talons and Pioneer 1000s are similar in length.

2. One heavy axle will cut rolling resistance nearly in half over 2 lighter axles, important for the Ridgeline. I won't argue that tandems have many advantages but I have two 11,000 foot passes to get over every time I head for the desert, rolling resistance is important because I'm driving a motorhome and that elevation sucks the HP out of everything.

Once I added a bed extender and spare tire, I had filled the trailer for day rides, seen here with 250 lb. tongue weight and no fuel onboard.


But adding 47 gallons of fuel (I ride in the desert, far from towns), propane, water and a highlift, I had to move the Talon rearward to prevent insane tongue weights and loading.


I did that by adding holes to the ramp holding straps. 4 holes were too many but I didn't know that then, I've since cut off 2 so I'll stop snagging myself every time I walk past the back of the trailer.

 

[NH Rider]

Lots to think about and thanks for all the suggestions. Now I’m thinking of just going with a quality single axle, 12 foot trailer to keep the weight down. That will handle 90% of my needs and trips of 60 miles or less. Question: I don’t see many trailers like this with brakes. Are they just necessary with this size of trailer? Can they be added as an option?

That sounds like a good plan. If the trailer is less than 3000gvwr it doesn't require brakes. That doesn't mean they would not be beneficial. Especially with the ridgeline you will want brakes. If you go open trailer the 6 x 12 will work. An enclosed would be need to be wider to get in and out of the machine unless you winched it in which would be a nuisance.

The aluminum trailers around me I have seen have not been falling apart. The welds are sometimes too hot but the steel trailers inevitably rust out and can have the same problems. A lot of the aluminum triton trailers I have seen for sale are old like 20 years old and still on the road.

It is important to inspect each trailer before you buy it. Steel or aluminum after the rona everything was pumped out so quickly it was all junk.

For the light hauling you will be doing you don't need a high gvw trailer and don't need a steel trailer because you're not loading a 10k lb machine on it daily.

I would definitely go with an aluminum for a sxs. It will look the same in ten years and won't require repainting.

 

[czajkaej]

The smallest trailer size for towing a Honda Pioneer with stock tires would be 62” x 9.5', but that would be tight and possibly damaging your rig. If you get a 60x10, the tires will rub on the sides unless its a flat top, or the sides flare out. Loading/unloading will be a challenge on a smaller trailer.

The most common trailer size that will be big enough, is 6x10, which is 72" x 120". The footprint of the Honda Pioneer is ~62" x 111".

This trailer is a Playcraft SUSA 77X10.

 

[JACKAL]

I'm a new member and and a newbie to SXSs and trailering. I recently bought a 2022 1000-5 Deluxe and now need a trailer. The trailer will mostly be used on short trips on generally flat land but we hope to take the occasional long trip (e.g., 10 hours) to fun destinations, including going to Colorado and driving over mountain passes. We'll be pulling it with 2022 Honda Ridgeline. Towing capacity of the Ridgeline is 5,000 pounds. Based on reading on this site and other places, I want a tandem axle and breaks. Maybe overkill, but I want them for peace of mind. I'm looking at 14 footers, though maybe I'd go with a 16 footer just because it is more versatile and might be easier to sell down the road if it turns out we don't use the SXS much. I like the aluminum trailers because they are lighter and which would be easier on the Ridgeline, and are easier to move around. But they get very pricey. Now I'm looking at steel utility trailers like a Big Tex 60 PI or a similar PJ model. (They look pretty similar to my untrained eye.) I found a Big Tex 60 PI 16 footer for $4,300 (trailer weighs 1535 pounds) and a 14 footer for $3,800. Then I stumbled on to Carry-On all aluminum 6x14 (Model 6XAGGW7k) for $5,000. It's tandem axle and has brakes. This trailer weighs 1340 pounds, which isn't a big weight difference. This price for an all aluminum trailer is tempting but perhaps because that's because this isn't such a great trailer? I will rarely, if ever, use a trailer for anything other than hauling around the Pioneer, so maybe it's fine for that.

Any thoughts and advice on my situation, these specific trailers, or other trailer recommendations are much appreciated.

This should fit the bill and within the prices you mentioned, this is a huge dealer in Michigan. 7X14 $4899

2024 Carry-On 14' 7K ALUMINUM LANDSCAPE UTILITY TRAILER Utility Trailer | Flatbed, Dump, Utility, and Enclosed Cargo Trailers for Sale in Milan Michigan

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www.drtrailer.net

STOCK NO: 39916​

MSRP: $6,368.00​

OUR PRICE: $4,899.00​

VIN:	4YMBU1421RG005725
Condition:	new
Manufacturer:	Carry-On
Model:	14' 7K ALUMINUM LANDSCAPE UTILITY TRAILER
Color:	Aluminum

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[CID]

This should fit the bill and within the prices you mentioned, this is a huge dealer in Michigan. 7X14 $4899

2024 Carry-On 14' 7K ALUMINUM LANDSCAPE UTILITY TRAILER Utility Trailer | Flatbed, Dump, Utility, and Enclosed Cargo Trailers for Sale in Milan Michigan

<p>HUGE SELECTION OF TRAILERS IN STOCK!<br />NATION'S #1 VOLUME DEALER!</p><br /><p>2024 CARRY-ON ALUMINUM LANDSCAPE UTILITY TRAILER<br />STOCK ID 39916<br />14' LANDSCAPE ALUMINUM UTILITY TRAILER<br />**<br />LED Lights<br />**<br />PLEASE GIVE US A CALL AT 734-439-1441 FOR DETAILS!<br />Ad may con

www.drtrailer.net

STOCK NO: 39916​

MSRP: $6,368.00​

OUR PRICE: $4,899.00​

VIN:	4YMBU1421RG005725
Condition:	new
Manufacturer:	Carry-On
Model:	14' 7K ALUMINUM LANDSCAPE UTILITY TRAILER
Color:	Aluminum

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DR Trailer Sales is the Number One Volume Trailer Dealership in the United States! Shop Trailers for Sale in Michigan by PJ Trailers and Big Tex.

www.drtrailer.net

[email protected]
14177 Plank Rd
Milan, MI, 48160
(734) 439-1441

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Yeouch, that's ~$2500 more than I paid for my steel Echo 14' four years ago - pre plandemic.

 

[czajkaej]

My trailer cost $3k, and I got it here:

2023 Sun Country 77" x 10' Single Axle Utility Trailer | Norco Trailers | Trailers in Escondido CA and Norco | Flatbed, dump, and utility equipment trailers and enclosed haulmark cargo trailers

<p>2023 Playcraft 77" x 10' Single Axle utility trailer with 15" radial tires, EZ lube hubs, treated wood deck, 4' utility ramp gate, LED lights, d-rings, Lifetime guarantee on welds, 3500# axle Rockwell American-made axle de-rated to 2995# so doesn't require brakes, and more!<br />Call fo

www.thetrailerspot.net

Maybe you can find a similar one closer to where you are

 

[Smittyp]

I built my trailer ( 7X14 ) andI’ve got less than $600 in it. It has a 5200 pound axle with 4” drop spindles.

 

[SILVER_ALERT]

It looks really sturdy. I like the adjustable coupler. Did you make your ramps too?

 

[Smittyp]

It looks really sturdy. I like the adjustable coupler. Did you make your ramps too?

No ramps needed. The short dovetail on the end is about 8 inches off the ground.