P500 Wider Tires on Stock Rims OK?

[lukebuz]

I have another active thread ongoing about trying to smooth the ride of my P500. The price of shocks shocked me! So, I think the suggestion of getting larger tires is where I may head. A few questions for you experts...

From my research around here, looks like BigHorn 2.0 is good for me. I'd go with 26"x9" front and 26"x11" rear. Is it OK to run the wider tires on the stock rims? I'll run lower tire pressure, so I'd hate to break the bead/seal. Very rocky, rough trails.

I understand I'll also need 1" spacers to make it less tippy with the taller tires. Given these are $225 for a set, it makes more sense for me to just buy new steel wheels to mount the new tires on (don't need no fancy bling). Would it make sense to get wider wheels for the wider tires? What offset would I need to match the same effect as the 1" spacers?

12"x7" Rim Front? 4+3? Inch wider than stock, and inch further out offset?
12"x8.5" Rim Back? 4+3? Inch wider than stock, and inch further out offset?
Just guessing here. This stuff is confusing!

Thanks for your great input!

 

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[Remington]

From my research around here, looks like BigHorn 2.0 is good for me. I'd go with 26"x9" front and 26"x11" rear. Is it OK to run the wider tires on the stock rims? I'll run lower tire pressure, so I'd hate to break the bead/seal. Very rocky, rough trails.

Prob will, pop the beads that is.

That said, with bead locks , tires and spacers you gotta nice down payment for a nice ride with some aftermarket shocks. Bite the bullet and get the shocks and slowly build the tire set up around them. I know it's harsh, but this is about stock shocks, you can only put lipstick on a pig for so long

 

[trigger]

$225 a set? Where are you looking at?

 

[lukebuz]

Sorry, set of 4...

 

[trigger]

Sorry, set of 4...

Yeah, I know.

QuadBoss Wheel Spacers - 1 Inch - 4/110 Bolt Pattern - M12 x 1.5 Thread - 100-411074-1215

QuadBoss Wheel Spacers Your ride's stability is assured with these top of the line wheel spacers For stock or aftermarket wheels Precision made from high-quality aluminum Strong and durable, yet lightweight Increases stability, provides extra clearance for larger tires Wheel studs and nuts...

www.svspowersports.com

 

[Remington]

Sorry, set of 4...

No way! Got a link?
are they on the Black market?wait ..cant say Black!🤭 Ok White market😂

 

[lukebuz]

Hey, thanks for the link...for real. Everyone only said RB3, but I hadn't looked anywhere else. I'll get those if I go w/spacers. If I were to skip the spacers and go new steelies, got any recommendations?

I know you are saying shocks Rem. but I think tires have some extra benefits. I actually wouldn't mind the taller gearing, and taking preload down to lowest, plus losing 1 PSI at each corner seemed to help a bit. Add in taller tires to soak up some more bumps, and it might get what I need...

 

[HUCK]

I have another active thread ongoing about trying to smooth the ride of my P500. The price of shocks shocked me! So, I think the suggestion of getting larger tires is where I may head. A few questions for you experts...

From my research around here, looks like BigHorn 2.0 is good for me. I'd go with 26"x9" front and 26"x11" rear. Is it OK to run the wider tires on the stock rims? I'll run lower tire pressure, so I'd hate to break the bead/seal. Very rocky, rough trails.

I understand I'll also need 1" spacers to make it less tippy with the taller tires. Given these are $225 for a set, it makes more sense for me to just buy new steel wheels to mount the new tires on (don't need no fancy bling). Would it make sense to get wider wheels for the wider tires? What offset would I need to match the same effect as the 1" spacers?

12"x7" Rim Front? 4+3? Inch wider than stock, and inch further out offset?
12"x8.5" Rim Back? 4+3? Inch wider than stock, and inch further out offset?
Just guessing here. This stuff is confusing!

Thanks for your great input!

I have 27 11 12 and 27 9 12 Terabites on stock wheels with 1.5 spacers and they are a great combo BUT tires are not going to change the ride much . Got the spacers from SATV for 120.00 for all 4 .

 

[futzin]

I run 27s on mine on steelies (can't think of the brand at the moment) with 4+3 offset. 9" wide on front, 11" on back. Many guys run 5+2 offset.
Looks better and acts better, but it introduced more mud into the equation.
That led to spending money with Mudbusters . . .

 

[Splorin]

Price some Stage 1 Elkas. Cheapest of the quality shock choices. It hurts the wallet but the ride quality improvement is worth it and that wallet ain’t savin your rear in the rough stuff. Stock rims can handle 9’s or 10’s up front and 11 or 12’s out back. I run 28x10’s on four front rims to keep beads happy but I can ruin an anvil.......

 

[trigger]

Hey, thanks for the link...for real. Everyone only said RB3, but I hadn't looked anywhere else. I'll get those if I go w/spacers. If I were to skip the spacers and go new steelies, got any recommendations?

I know you are saying shocks Rem. but I think tires have some extra benefits. I actually wouldn't mind the taller gearing, and taking preload down to lowest, plus losing 1 PSI at each corner seemed to help a bit. Add in taller tires to soak up some more bumps, and it might get what I need...

Like Huck said, tires alone aren't going to make a huge difference. I've done about everything you can do to make the ride more comfortable. Arched A arms, 28's on 12's and aired way down, WE's on all four corners, removed the sway bar, spread the stance... it's made a huge difference but it's still nowhere near plush.
In the OP you voiced concerns about breaking the bank. My suggestion would be to keep the stock wheels. Go with 26 or 27 tires that have a round profile and softer sidewall, like 2.0's and air them down to about 8 psi. Get some spacers and adjust your preloads to the softest setting without bottoming out constantly. That's about all you're going to get without digging deeper into your wallet. Keep in mind, the high dollar shocks make the biggest difference at higher speeds, not so much for slow rock crawling.

 

[lukebuz]

Thanks again everyone. Really apricate the back and forth; all good suggestions.

I should clarify what I'm looking for. Not such much a plush ride (not that old!), but just something that isn't so jarring. A moderate improvement would be nice. We use the machine mostly for work and slower rides through the woods. Occasional spin down our gravel lane.
Trigger - doing pretty much what you suggest. Softest preload = done. Swaybar = done. Low pressure BH 2.0's = probably doing.

I'd kind of like to go new rims vs spacers. Would be nice to have a spare rim/tire set vs just tires. Plus, would like the wider rim to ensure no bead issues and get a the offset I need that way. What are your thoughts?

 

[Remington]

A moderate improvement would be nice.

= Shocks

Wider rims with low pressure? Will help a little. Bead locks are best for lower pressure. What about verification on those bighorn prices? Link would be great. That's like well used prices.

 

[lukebuz]

What does socks mean?

Here is link. Seem legit?

Maxxis Tire - Bighorn 2.0 - 26x9R12

Features Non-directional pattern provides predictable cornering and claws up roots and rocks, creating optimum climbing confidence Radial construction provides better shock absorption, allowing for a smoother ride Lightweight version of the legendary Bighorn with a slimmer profile Specification...

powersportschoice.com

 

[trigger]

You'll want 5+2 offsets on the aftermarket wheels. That keeps you about as narrow as possible and still maintain stability going with the taller tires. If you plan to go with the same size tire on all four corners (for rotation and spare possibilities) then you'll need 1" spacers on the rear for an even track width. Going with 11's on all four will give you a little more cushion and grip for the rocks. Makes it a little more floaty when turning though. All of this stuff comes down to personal preference, set it up for your needs.

 

[NTCPrezJB]

What does socks mean?

Here is link. Seem legit?

Maxxis Tire - Bighorn 2.0 - 26x9R12

Features Non-directional pattern provides predictable cornering and claws up roots and rocks, creating optimum climbing confidence Radial construction provides better shock absorption, allowing for a smoother ride Lightweight version of the legendary Bighorn with a slimmer profile Specification...

powersportschoice.com

I suspect it was a typo/autocorrect for “shocks”.

 

[lukebuz]

Well, they gave me 10% off coupon to complete my tire purchase. Got the 26" BH 2.0 coming for $610 after tax, free shipping. Seems fair price! 26x9 and 26x11.

Now, just need wheels. Same as before, looking for value. Would like to go steelies, but there are no 12" rims at 8" for some reason?!? What would y'all recommend? Would like to capture offset without spacers, if possible...

 

[futzin]

I seem to remember having to tell the e-tailer's website to search for wheels for a Rhino (I think) to get the right lug spacing.
Also, I think I used the search function here to find the actual model number for the wheels needed (posted by another member/s).

@KYgal83, can you help?

 

[KyGal83]

I seem to remember having to tell the e-tailer's website to search for wheels for a Rhino (I think) to get the right lug spacing.
Also, I think I used the search function here to find the actual model number for the wheels needed (posted by another member/s).

@KYgal83, can you help?

@lukebuz

I did 27 inch Big Horn 2.0's with the 5+2 off set Delta steelies and no spacers. Ordered mine from Dennis Kirk.

(here is the link to the exact ones) ITP Black Large Bell Delta Steel Wheel - 1225553014 - Dennis Kirk

On the Big Horns I did 27x9x12 front and 27x11x12 on the rears. My only disappoint with the tires are they do not measure 27... they measure about 25.5. Had I known that I would have went with 28s. Other wise I have very happy with the set up...

 

[trigger]

Well, they gave me 10% off coupon to complete my tire purchase. Got the 26" BH 2.0 coming for $610 after tax, free shipping. Seems fair price! 26x9 and 26x11.

Now, just need wheels. Same as before, looking for value. Would like to go steelies, but there are no 12" rims at 8" for some reason?!? What would y'all recommend? Would like to capture offset without spacers, if possible...

You're looking for 7" wheels, not 8's.