P1000m5 1000-5 Tie Down Straps

[rocmar]

I tie my p5 down
...via rear rack...
to front tie downs...
in bed of truck....
yeah..it bounces..but
tires don't roll....

 

[Sweetroll]

Got these from Cabelas. Work great. Got tired of breaking straps from the roll cage (I'll admit they were cheaper ratchet straps but I went through 4 last fall). I also put a single strap on the front bumper to keep it from bouncing.

 

[eastenn]

I guess there's 3 reasons for me. From hauling dirt bikes I was always told it was hard on the fork seals so I would put one of those things between the tire and lower triple clamp to cinch down to.

Second is I've had straps come free when the suspension would compress and straps come loose.

And third which I just recently learned (since I always used to just strap to bumpers) it trailers a noticeable bit better. You can hit a bump or an overpass and watch in mirror the machine will absorb the bump just like it was rolling. You feel less feedback at the truck because the trailer isn't taking that full hit and it has to be easier on the trailers hubs and axles.

Just my .02.

 

[ohanacreek]

I have noticed I have to tighten the back before the front otherwise, one if not both of the rear straps come loose even if I have it as close to the bumps as I can get it, without using a cheater bar. Don't know why but if I tighten the rear first it's far more stable.

Trailer hubs and tires are cheap compared to it swaying and rocking and causing instability.

To me it's too dynamic with bumps, wind, and turbulence from trucks. If I take a cloverleaf entrance ramp a bit too fast that sucker is now a dynamic load that is LEANING. Instead of being slightly lower and static load.

I've got a full size crew and when it sways I feel it.

 

[eastenn]

Hm I'm not a trucker but if you're on a cloverleaf the weight of the machine is pushing to the outside of the trailer whether it's "leaning" or not. Anywho different strokes

 

[ohanacreek]

Hm I'm not a trucker but if you're on a cloverleaf the weight of the machine is pushing to the outside of the trailer whether it's "leaning" or not. Anywho different strokes

You are correct but it's not dynamic it cannot shift the center of mass suddenly and drastically if you were to hit a bump or have to swerve. I have had to swerve and brake very hard once while towing the Pioneer and it probably didn't but I swear the wheel of the trailer came off the ground. I was not happy, I shouldn't have but I rolled the window down and had some choice words to say.

I drive a LOT and sometimes have had to make sudden lane changes because of idiot drivers, texting and driving is stupid.

I think the only time to use wheel bonnets is on showcars where you can't do any damage to the finish or they deduct points for it.

I wouldn't leave it tied down for more than overnight and a trip to the trails, in fear of issues.

I'm gonna stand by my opinion that a static load is a more stable and secure load than a dynamic one.

 

[ripHST]

You are correct but it's not dynamic it cannot shift the center of mass suddenly and drastically if you were to hit a bump or have to swerve. I have had to swerve and brake very hard once while towing the Pioneer and it probably didn't but I swear the wheel of the trailer came off the ground. I was not happy, I shouldn't have but I rolled the window down and had some choice words to say.

I drive a LOT and sometimes have had to make sudden lane changes because of idiot drivers, texting and driving is stupid.

I think the only time to use wheel bonnets is on showcars where you can't do any damage to the finish or they deduct points for it.

I wouldn't leave it tied down for more than overnight and a trip to the trails, in fear of issues.

I'm gonna stand by my opinion that a static load is a more stable and secure load than a dynamic one.

I think you make a good point.....the downside to strapping the wheels is that you have more movement, and that can be bad.(ask a pilot) In either case (strapping the wheels or the sprung mass) there are plusses and minuses that need to be accounted for. If you're aware of them, either method will work.

 

[bigbuggy]

I have something similar.....haven't fully tested it yet though.

Amazon.com: Erickson 09160 Wheel Chock Tie-Down Kit: Automotive

Another vote for these tie downs. I trailered many times over very rough roads and never had it move. Very satisfied with these.

 

[Jshell3]

See. Clearly says 3/8... but 3/8ths, what??

Stupid Amazon.

 

[ohanacreek]

See. Clearly says 3/8... but 3/8ths, what??

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Stupid Amazon.

3/8" diameter pin

 

[ohanacreek]

Got a hook that size on my winch goes around a trailer ball PERFECTLY.

 

[Deer-hunter]

See. Clearly says 3/8... but 3/8ths, what??

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Stupid Amazon.

3/8" is the diameter of the chain links.

 

[Jshell3]

3/8" is the diameter of the chain links. You

Well yeah. Everybody knows that







(now)

 

[gsiebrecht]

Here is how I do mine...

E-track on trailer, tie at least 2 tires to the trailer, and let the suspension work the way it is intended. Rock solid on Highway and off road. Easy on and off.

The e-track can be purchased at most hardware type stores (Tractor Supply, Cal Ranch, etc). It is relatively inexpensive, but strong. It lays flat on the trailer deck without being in the way when the trailer is needed for plywood/drywall/et al.

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Exactly what I did.

 

[Deer-hunter]

Man. This post has got me.

I bought some chains on Amazon. When the came in today, they are HUGE. Way too big to be practical.

There's a real issue with me and dimensions / sizes.

Words like 3/8 and 3/4 and 5/16 and 1/2. All difficult to comprehend... so I get these MONSTER unusable chains that are laughable, but too expensive to warrant the return shipping charge. lol

They had a 5 star rating, tho!

Kinda like this spotlight I bought last year!
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Looking at your earlier post it didn't seam that way.

 

[Jshell3]

Looking at your earlier post it didn't seam that way.

Lol. Well, I'm a quick learner.

 

[JTW]

See. Clearly says 3/8... but 3/8ths, what??

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Stupid Amazon.

That's about what I have on mine..

 

[Jshell3]

That's about what I have on mine..

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Mine is bigger.

 

[Hucker]

How do you like your Viking?
I sold mine to get my P1K, needed more seats and wanted more power

I sold the Viking to get the P1k also. I loved the Viking, but the P1k is way better, as you know. I switched for the same reasons as you.

 

[JTW]

Mine is bigger.

Mine is less intimidating and therefore more used!