1000 Lug Pattern Debate????

[bobbyhill]

I don't have a gator. what is the size for a 700-4 if not 4/110?

 

[Admin]

 

[Hondasxs]

I don't have a gator. what is the size for a 700-4 if not 4/110?

LOL. The Pioneer 1000 will NOT have the same lug pattern as the 700.
Pioneer 1000 will have 4/137 pattern.
Your 700 and almost every other Honda has 4/110 pattern.

 

[JACKAL]

I don't have a gator. what is the size for a 700-4 if not 4/110?

LOL the 700-4 IS 110mm X 4 the P1000 with almost certainty is 137mm X 4 - the 137MM spread is used on john Deer gators, CanAm, and some Kawasaki Teryx. but that bolt pattern is popular among the aftermarket vendors should have plenty of sizes / styles to choose from all the way up to 17" rims

 

[bobbyhill]

Dang I've already bought mine ! Sure hope they don't change up on us

@Hondasxs and @JACKAL so what you are saying is that I was right? and that this poor guy may have unknowingly bought the wrong size rims (4/110) and they will fit on the 700-4 and not the P1000? and that my debs is still in affect?

 

[bobbyhill]

 

[JACKAL]

Well if any one is donating there rims they can't use I call dibs!

WHO? / Which Rims P1000 OEM or pre-purchased aftermarket 110mm x 4 that won't fit the P1000?

Damn that was a big graphic!!!!

 

[bobbyhill]

lol yeah it was

 

[JACKAL]

lol yeah it was

Yes you might pick up a set for free, only pay $947 shipping to Kodiak, AK

 

[bobbyhill]

WHO? / Which Rims P1000 OEM or pre-purchased aftermarket 110mm x 4 that won't fit the P1000?

well of course I meant the aftermarket 110mmx4 rims that won't fit the p1000! lol what use would I have with OEM P1000 rims that would not fit my 700-4? lol

 

[Hondasxs]

Ok. Well we took that for a round around the block. Haha.

 

[JACKAL]

Ok. Well we took that for a round around the block. Haha.

So for those joining us after all the shenanigans. The Pioneer 1000's will have a 136MM x 4 bolt pattern with 12mm studs versus the Honda standard 110mm X 4 pattern on everything else. The majority of the rims have holes for 10mm studs, so not only do you have to ensure you get the 136mm pattern they must also fit the 12mm lugs. Unless you are into drilling on a new set of rims. (Not Advised)

 

[Kenjones21]

So is it 100% not 4/110 , I just received mine Saturday and need to return them soon , and are we 100% that it is 4/137??

 

[TOOLOUD]

Going off the above pic it appears to be 4x137

 

[ButchersHook]

P1K is a 4-110 bolt pattern but different offset then the 700, I was at the demo ride today and asked. Wayne the guy in the Video and who has posted here in the past told me this when asked.

 

[bigc]

i called honda today and they said they are the same 4-110mm pattern with 12mm stud diameter as the p700 anyone wants to verify call honda at 1-866-784-1870

 

[JACKAL]

@JACKAL, your research was right on the dot.
My contact at a demo ride today said they measured approximately 5.25 across.
That would make it 4/137 lug pattern as you said with 12mm studs.

I hope we get this settled? We are getting everyone confused. Me I'm in no hurry they make wheels every day.

 

[Kenjones21]

I hope we get this settled? We are getting everyone confused. Me I'm in no hurry they make wheels every day.

I hope we get this settled? We are getting everyone confused. Me I'm in no hurry they make wheels every day.

I hope we get this settled? We are getting everyone confused. Me I'm in no hurry they make wheels every day.

So 4/110 has been verified by Honda? I hope this is accurate, it makes since to be the same , my only problem is I ordered wheels and got them in Saturday and mounted my tires on them Monday if I have to return them I've got to do it soon !

 

[JACKAL]

So 4/110 has been verified by Honda? I hope this is accurate, it makes since to be the same , my only problem is I ordered wheels and got them in Saturday and mounted my tires on them Monday if I have to return them I've got to do it soon !

I'm not trying to confuse anyone or be argumentative, but two forum members have seen and driven the P1K, measured the lug nut spacing that is approx. 5.25" center to center that would be 136mm, the 110mm would measure 4.23" a full inch smaller. I'm inclined to trust people who have seen, driven, and measured P1000 on demo vs. 1-866-I'm reading off of a spec sheet no one else has access too and I haven't even seen a P1000.

Knowing the below Rim is 14" across at the bead seat does the bolt spacing look larger than 4.23" ? That's the $550 question.

 

[TOOLOUD]

I hope we get this settled? We are getting everyone confused. Me I'm in no hurry they make wheels every day.

I agree ! But I stumbled across mine and couldn't pass them up - but if the P1K is a different bolt pattern I then have rims that I can't use. Hopefully this info is proven to be accurate asap

 

[JACKAL]

So 4/110 has been verified by Honda? I hope this is accurate, it makes since to be the same , my only problem is I ordered wheels and got them in Saturday and mounted my tires on them Monday if I have to return them I've got to do it soon !

I can not and will not say who but triple verified in past 3 minutes they are in fact 136mm X 4 bolt pattern hubs with 12mm lug on the P1K. Same thing I said over a week ago.

If I'm wrong I guess I'll owe you a pickled buffalo tounge and a Daniel Webster cigar but will have to travel to 1896 to get either.