just now seeing the hunting photos son killed a nice 9 pt. gave the pioneer its first blood. hauled several hogs out. we run 3 hog traps during deer season
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southern arkansas deer. he killed the 2nd largest deer this season. a 10 pointer was killed in the same area that scored 140. he killed the biggest buck out of our youths and we have 10 youths.. kid been hooked since he was 4 years old. shot a ar15 this year at some hogs. hunting, shooting, and base ball and of course riding and driving the pioneer. those things he enjoys. seeing him smile priceless!
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yes in southern arkansas a 140 is a pretty good size deer. they only get so big eating pinecones. it also depends on what part of the state your are in. some barely crack the 100's and that's a giant. some can mimic places where 150s+ are common. we are kinda in between that. and we have a lot of hard woods and bottoms
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I always find it interesting what a big deer is in different parts of the country.
This was found about 45 miles from me.. yes. It’s really as big as it looks!
holy cow. that's huge. yes I always find it interesting my self. different genetics. also it's always interesting how the rut works. my dad use to hunt 30 miles in another club n their bucks would be chasing does. when ours would be. it weird but neat in a way.
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Yep.. genetics, food and cover! But genetics is only as good as your food food and cover. Like I say.. our deer have really done well.
It is crazy how the rut can change by area or even day to day. I know exactly what you mean.
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Let me know if you need any help with the pigs, have rifle and Honda....will travel.
Looks like everyone had a great time!
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Some parts of the country people are lucky just to see one with antlers. Like Pennsylvania and Maine. When it comes to deer we're pretty spoiled in Iowa. We get to see deer regularly that a lot of folks will never see in their life. They think about Iowa deer the way I dream about rocky mountain elk. If we could get more hunters in Iowa to be more conservative on size it would be even better.
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that's what I teach my son be conservative. dont shoot the small ones. let them grow. if and when it comes to needing meat shoot a doe. yes deer size has exploded over the past 20 years. I still remember when people would pose for a picture with a spike. lol. I just hope it just get better with work and effort we put into hunting.
hogs have become a big problem. our club killed as many hogs as we did deer.
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What's frustrating here is when my son and I passed up four different, nice young bucks in both archery and rifle seasons, some of them multiple times, only to have the neighbors shoot them. Hard to get deer over 100" that way for sure.
yes that is very frustrating. we have the same problem. if everyone was on same page.....with antler size (3pt rule arkansas state wide) I can be 10 times better. our camp has a 4pt on one side rule. other camps around us have the same rule so it helps. but.....youth can kill what they want (no antler restrictions) so u get kids blasting up to 2 small bucks with no understanding of what they are doing. I teach mine different that's why 3 years running he has killed the biggest one during youth hunt. and if he kills a 2nd buck (hasnt yet) it has to be bigger than his first. but I know the frustration Iet several legal bucks walk only to hear a gun shot 3mins later. (one of my best stands is near a lease that doesn't practice the 4pt on one side rule.)
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The ONE good management tool that the state implemented here was a no spike rule. (except for youth weekend) With the thick nasty stuff here, making people look to see that there is at least a second point on one side lets a lot of would have been shot deer get away. That is (sadly) why we are getting a few deer in the 120 class. Wish that people would look long term rather than for just right now.
I think we are entering our 20th year of the 3 point on one side rule. it has done us good in my opinion. it is one of the best management tools game fish implemented.
1. it has allowed deer to get older
2. it makes hunters slow down a little before shooting.
3. less dog running as a result of the 3pt rule.
back when I was growing up we ran dogs n they could run a deer into the next zip code.
no dogs has allowed us to see more rut activity and keep deer In certain spots witch allows us to watchem grow. n for years youth had to follow this just as well. they dont have to now. but your 1 year old didn't shoot that 7 mag at that spike. so they have a minimum age now that 6 years old.
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1. it has allowed deer to get older
2. it makes hunters slow down a little before shooting.
3. less dog running as a result of the 3pt rule.
back when I was growing up we ran dogs n they could run a deer into the next zip code.
no dogs has allowed us to see more rut activity and keep deer In certain spots witch allows us to watchem grow. n for years youth had to follow this just as well. they dont have to now. but your 1 year old didn't shoot that 7 mag at that spike. so they have a minimum age now that 6 years old.
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Kansas deer are always bigger than Missouri deer, Northern Missouri are like Kansas
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