P1000 2018 Pioneer 1000-5 rear differential shows locked in turf mode

[P1K5Dave]

Cables stretch also. It's not a set it and forget adjustment. I probably adjust mine once a year.

Yeah, it's a good thing to check. I do mine annually as well.

 

[Admin]

 

[brettc]

Well it was pretty obvious why mine wasn't working right either. I jacked the rear end up, made the adjustments and it worked like a champ. Thanks for all the great info.

 

[Hunt4x4]

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Do you make this adjustment while the machine is in park and 2wd or while it’s in neutral and turf mode?

“To me it reads turn the rear wheel and check the release of the rear diff lock.” Only happens in neutral and turf mode. Then it proceeds to explain the alignment.

I’ve watched several videos and they are adjusting while in park and 2nd.

If I’m reading the manual correctly you are adjusting the turf mode/ disengagement of rear diff. So it should be in neutral and turf mode when making these adjustments.

can someone clear this up?

 

[P1K5Dave]

Follow this video. Get it set so it engages and disengages in 1/2 turn of the tire.

The method in the manual is insufficient.

P1000 - Rear Differential Adjustment - Pioneer 1000 2016-2021

I have seen a lot of posts about Pioneer's making a clanking/banging sound when shifting from 2WD to Turf Mode. I have made a video detailing how to fix this and what causes that. Please like and subscribe and I hope this helps some of you!

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[TripleB]

Do you make this adjustment while the machine is in park and 2wd or while it’s in neutral and turf mode?

“To me it reads turn the rear wheel and check the release of the rear diff lock.” Only happens in neutral and turf mode. Then it proceeds to explain the alignment.

I’ve watched several videos and they are adjusting while in park and 2nd.

If I’m reading the manual correctly you are adjusting the turf mode/ disengagement of rear diff. So it should be in neutral and turf mode when making these adjustments.

can someone clear this up?

I was in park and 2wd when I adjusted mine. It's been 2 years since I've did it. It took me multiple times adjusting it to get it to work the way I wanted. Been good to go since.

 

[Spoonbill]

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What is the remedy if the cable has become disconnected from 7/5?

 

[Scoop]

What is the remedy if the cable has become disconnected from 7/5?

Reconnect and adjust ...

 

[Spoonbill]

Reconnect and adjust ...

It appears the cable is somehow crimped into the mechanism

 

[Remington]

It appears the cable is somehow crimped into the mechanism

Pics will help with your description.

 

[Spoonbill]

 

[Spoonbill]

This is an extremely poor design. With every throw of the gear into park or switching from 2WD to Turf the connection from the tensioner to the cable is repeatedly stressed. Honda made significant improvements on the 2022. Makes me wish I would have held off a couple of years??

 

[Fatsquatch]

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Looks like you need to order a new cable unfortunately

 

[Spoonbill]

Any idea if this is too difficult for a DIY?? I've done quite a bit of mechanic work over my life, but if this requires special tools, that is an entirely different story.

 

[Fatsquatch]

Any idea if this is too difficult for a DIY?? I've done quite a bit of mechanic work over my life, but if this requires special tools, that is an entirely different story.

I’ve not done one. Just looks to me like yours might have been over crimped or over tightened and broke. As clean as it looks I don’t think you did anything. I think you got fucked by the factory. 😢

My guess is it will be worth your time to DIY it but it is probably going to be a PITA to chase the cable. You could always call your stealership and talk to the service department though and find out what they would charge you. Show them the picture and ask if it would be a warranty repair. If so, get it in writing so you don’t get a surprise when you pick up the machine.

Ultimately I do think anyone that can change oil could do this repair…just expect to scrape some knuckles chasing that cable.

 

[Scoop]

Ultimately I do think anyone that can change oil could do this repair…just expect to scrape some knuckles chasing that cable.

Prolly just swear a few more times than @GovtMule installing electrical bits ... if that's even possible.

 

[Adam490]

@Spoonbill

I've never heard of anyone breaking one of those before and I've seen a BUNCH of those shiftboxes completely full of mud/sand/water and they still seem to hold up. Yours looks immaculate, so I'd lean towards it just being a fluke. Looks like you just need #9 here and it shouldn't be too hard to replace since you can get to it all pretty easily with the bed up:

Remove it from the clips and pop off this plastic cover on the rear diff (#28). Should be no more difficult than changing the brake/shift cable on a bicycle:

 

[Spoonbill]

@Spoonbill

I've never heard of anyone breaking one of those before and I've seen a BUNCH of those shiftboxes completely full of mud/sand/water and they still seem to hold up. Yours looks immaculate, so I'd lean towards it just being a fluke. Looks like you just need #9 here and it shouldn't be too hard to replace since you can get to it all pretty easily with the bed up:

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Remove it from the clips and pop off this plastic cover on the rear diff (#28). Should be no more difficult than changing the brake/shift cable on a bicycle:

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