2019 Honda Talon 1000R rear frame cracks

[Lil_Steve]

Just discovered this. Anyone else have this happen? @HondaTech have you seen this before?

Closer look.

One clean break and one crack on the passenger side.

And 2 cracks on the drivers side.

Wondering if all the weight I carry combined with my enthusiastic driving resulted in this. @CID our Talons are very similarly set up, give your frame a look.

 

[1HasBeen]

Ruh-Roh.

 

[CID]

Dayem, Dude. Mine is still intact, thanks for the tag. 👍

 

[Hondasxs]

I have seen another just like this. Don't remember if it was here or on FB.

 

[HondaTech]

Never seen that before. But it honestly wouldn't surprise me with a heavy load in the bed.

We've seen 2 with ripped off sway bar bushing mounts. Someone makes a plate kit for that now, but i cant remember who maybe RaceCo?

We braced ours on the race car with some plates.

 

[Hometeam]

I have seen another just like this. Don't remember if it was here or on FB.

Same....I know I saw this somewhere too. Crazy how clean the break is.

 

[Lil_Steve]

Never seen that before. But it honestly wouldn't surprise me with a heavy load in the bed.

We've seen 2 with ripped off sway bar bushing mounts. Someone makes a plate kit for that now, but i cant remember who maybe RaceCo?

We braced ours on the race car with some plates.

My trunk and it's contents are under 100lbs but I do have the Dirt Road Fab bed extender, a 32" spare and a 3 gallon RotoPax. The bed extender isn't all dead weight though, it's supported off the cage and tied into the frame behind the diff. I would imagine your managers and slowpokes race car would be under greater stress but maybe not since all the extra weight isn't there. I'll see what I can find as a kit or have my buddy fab something up.

If you get a chance I'd appreciate some pics of the braced area on the race car.

 

[P1K5Dave]

Sorry dude, that sux. At least it looks like it can be fixed up stronger...

 

[Lil_Steve]

Sorry dude, that sux. At least it looks like it can be fixed up stronger...

Thanks man. Yeah, I intend to have it beefed up. I often ride really harsh terrain at unreasonable speeds so I'm not all that surprised.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

My Talon isn't a good example to use. I cut those tubes out of my car and replaced them with DOM tube when I built it. The only stock part of that tube that is left on my frame is where the upper rear suspension points are mounted. I wasn't allowed to change that per the rules so I spliced/sleeved the new tube in from there forward.

Might have pictures somewhere....

 

[SpeedBuggy]

Wow, I’ll be inspecting mine after work today. How many miles on your car?

 

[Lil_Steve]

Wow, I’ll be inspecting mine after work today. How many miles on your car?

just under 4500 miles

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

Not the best picture but it shows what I did to stiffen the back of the chassis to prevent that crap from happening.

 

[Lil_Steve]

Nice work. I cant find anything from RaceCo to address this issue, I'll be reaching out to my buddy who has experience with Baja/Beetle fabrication, I'm sure he can come up with a solution to fix/reinforce that area.

 

[toddvdh]

Hopefully your buddy can just reweld it and add some 1/4" gusset plates to reinforce the area.

 

[toddvdh]

Your machine must be red. My blue one isn't fast enough to break stuff.

 

[Lil_Steve]

Your machine must be red. My blue one isn't fast enough to break stuff.

Yes, it's the fast red one but I'm pretty sure I could break a blue one. You just need to try harder, you can do it! 🤣

 

[CID]

Umm, Dude - you could break an anvil.

 

[PaulF]

4,500 and 17,000 hard miles on 2 different 2019 R's and not a hint of problems. @hondabob has 23,000+ and he hasn't said anything.

Since the 3 breaking points in your photos are all where the sway bar gussets end, I will go out on a limb and say that HD sway bar (combined with your driving style) is the cause. The torsion at those points is creating more force than the frame was designed to handle. Replace the 4 uprights with larger and/or thicker tubes and you should be fine.

Another bit of evidence is that @hondabob removed his sway bar long ago and I only use mine at the dunes so we are not stressing those points nearly as much as you do.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

I run the same swaybar with the link in the same position. Bad example though. 😆