13’ vs 18’
The refinements were implemented on the 2022 1000-3 & 1000-5
Will they be offering a Limited model with full hard cab, heat, a/c, stereo etc to compete with the defender and rangers? I for one hope so 🤞🏼
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There is a soft cab and heater available upon release. We asked about hard cab and were told not as of yet. Nothing was said about any special additions as of the day we were out there.
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They're cute when they're young. 😃
What’s not cute is listening to 3 kids complain about the heat and dust in the back of a pioneer 1000-5 and when comparing it to other companies offerings and seeing how far behind Honda is in the cab options and overall filling of holes that allow dust to enter all over. For an actual automobile manufacturer I sure wouldn’t think it would be difficult at all for them to completely kick everyone else’s asses in these departments.
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Basically that Honda hopefully offers the new 1000-6 in a comparable platform to the Polaris ranger North Star edition and the can am defender limited and lone star editions. They have the expertise to make a sxs that completely beats those in all aspects.
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@Parkspremier - Don't take it personally, it was more of a shot at Honda, and the joke was that you must not have been around this forum (or Honda SxS's) too long. They have not, and will not, go for the accoutrements. You get "Soviet-era" trim, and you'll like it! 
Oh I get it and no offense taken, I have had mine for a couple years now and ride with a lot of people that have newer can am’s and Polaris’s and I’m hoping that Honda will make a comparable machine. I think that Hondas reliability and transmission are far superior but the cab definitely feels like to me that it was an after thought. I was excited when the 1000-6 came out and hope they make some improvements@Parkspremier - Don't take it personally, it was more of a shot at Honda, and the joke was that you must not have been around this forum (or Honda SxS's) too long. They have not, and will not, go for the accoutrements. You get "Soviet-era" trim, and you'll like it!
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I don't think I've ever be insulted here?@Parkspremier - Don't take it personally, it was more of a shot at Honda, and the joke was that you must not have been around this forum (or Honda SxS's) too long. They have not, and will not, go for the accoutrements. You get "Soviet-era" trim, and you'll like it!
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Well, let me get to work on that...
Yep, hold my beer . . . Gimme a shot at the title.Well, let me get to work on that...
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You may not have ever been offended here, but you've certainly been insulted! Lol
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Guess we're going to have to try harder.
Honda doesn't 'compete' in the SxS or marine market. You'll take what they offer and like it.
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Fifth in sales and ahead of . . . basically no one (source: SATV). New buyers will increasingly choose other makers. A reliable drivetrain is but one factor that current buyers consider.
The potential is enormous.
The lack of effort is staggering.
The Pioneer was the only thing we considered when looking for a SXS because:
1- Reliability experience going back decades with other Honda equipment (both ours and family); ATVs, dirt bikes, and generators.
2- The versatility of rear seats folding into a bed.
Had another company offered a similar rear seat conversion, we would have shopped around a bit more.
So in my opinion I don’t see Honda as actively competing but instead just hanging their hat on these couple of things. I agree with y’all on your statements.
"The lack of effort is staggering" Couldn't have said it better! I would soooo like to understand this business model.. They just get their asses handed to them in the marine engine sector as well. We had to drop the Honda Marine engine franchise because of it.
Being the Best is relative to the times. The bar has been lowered and sadly we all suffer.
china’s huge effort to flood all markets with junk and fake parts has a hand in this bigly.
china’s huge effort to flood all markets with junk and fake parts has a hand in this bigly.
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