P1000 28x10x14 Questions

[Remington]

I didn't want a ticket 😁

 

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[RacinJasonWV]

Thanks folks. Appreciate the input.

Don't have a P1 but have ran about every combination on a P5. Stock wheels work fine and will keep you closer to having an even track width if going with same width of tire on all 4 and not adding spacers. If you plan to keep it that way, no rotation or common spare, then going with same width of tire front and back has minimal benefits. You'll get a slightly softer ride by having wide's on the back and better turn capabilities by having skinny's on the front.
These manufacturer's are putting wide's on the back due to the weight ratio, engine is in the back, payload, towing, rear seats with passengers... it's a weight rating thing. That's all I got, hope it's helpful.

I hadn’t considered weight distribution as a factor for the varying OEM sizes. Sort of figured it may have been a leftover from when everything was manual steering. Thanks for that info.

You’re right, by dropping from 11” to 10” on the rear it may effect the stiffness. Hadn’t thought of that.

I figured the turn radius wouldn’t be drastic but definitely a consideration.

Is it worth beating yourself up over a half inch ground clearance.Myself i dont like the idea of hanging more rubber on the front end of a frame thats already prone to breakage.

The clearance only improving by 1/2” is a very good point and so this may not be worth fooling with. My cousin said he does prefer how the squared up tires handle in our terrain on his CanAm. But that’s a different animal so figured the guys here could give me more appropriate information.

Guess I’m a true noob. The frame being prone to breakage is news to me.

I went up to 28's on my 1000-5. Got 9" wide on the front and 11" on the back just because I didn't want to buy aftermarket wheels. I also got the widetrack spacer kit from RB3. I know this set up is different than what most guys go with on here but it has worked for me so far.

Everyone will say you can't notice a difference but technically if you put 10" wide tires on the stock rims then the back tires will end up being a little shorter than the front because the back rim is wider than the front rim. There are some people that are running 10" wide tires on stock rims with no issues though.

I don't have any really good pics but here's a few of my set up

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Thank you.
My original plan was to go 28” with the factory tire offset. Unfortunately Terrabite doesn’t offer those. I may have to see if there’s a similar tire that does have the 28x9&11.

“technically if you put 10" wide tires on the stock rims then the back tires will end up being a little shorter than the front because the back rim is wider than the front rim.”

I hadn’t considered this but it is a valid point.

28x10s are pretty narrow on stock rear wheel. You will likely notice they are hard on the tire side walls and you'll see more damage to the wheels. You also increase your chances of having the tire come off the bead. I didn't like running mine on stock wheels and quickly switched to 4 matching 14x7 wheels. If you wanted to run stock wheels 28x10s are a good fit on the narrower stock front wheels

Good point as well. I hadn’t thought about less sidewall bulge to protect the rear wheels.

Didn’t think the 1” would impact bead retention but you’re right, it would even if just slightly.

 

[Remington]

The clearance only improving by 1/2” is a very good point and so this may not be worth fooling with. My cousin said he does prefer how the squared up tires handle in our terrain on his CANNED HAM But that’s a different animal so figured the guys here could give me more appropriate information.

Guess I’m a true noob. The frame being prone to breakage is news to me.

Fixed it for ya!
The eyelets where the A-arms mount on some earlier years have been known to snap.
Heres a thread…

https://hondasxs.com/threads/iacv-connector-and-broken-upper-a-arm-bracket.32077/

Thank you.

😂🤣
Just messin! FJB

 

[RacinJasonWV]

Fixed it for ya!
The eyelets where the A-arms mount on some earlier years have been known to snap.
Heres a thread…

https://hondasxs.com/threads/iacv-connector-and-broken-upper-a-arm-bracket.32077/

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😂🤣
Just messin! FJB

Thanks for sharing the link. Interesting read.

Sounds like they may have (hopefully) corrected this on 22+ so fingers crossed our 23 is safe for now.

These latest posts have me leaning towards going with stock size. That is the easier no-thinking way anyhow. 😂
We have a little bit left in the originals so I have some time to stew over it.

 

[TripleB]

Thanks for sharing the link. Interesting read.

Sounds like they may have (hopefully) corrected this on 22+ so fingers crossed our 23 is safe for now.

These latest posts have me leaning towards going with stock size. That is the easier no-thinking way anyhow. 😂
We have a little bit left in the originals so I have some time to stew over it.

You won't have to worry about the a-arm tabs. You would have to have a good crash to rip them off now. I would only stay stock size tires if I found OEM take offs for a steal. It seems like those days are over since covid though. 28s in whatever configuration that floats your boat. I think @JACKAL has a 29 inch tire that will fit without doing the a-arms. I can't remember what tire it is but maybe he will chime in. You can't pay attention to the height claims because every tire manufacturer seems to be full of s***.

 

[EMAW]

You won't have to worry about the a-arm tabs. You would have to have a good crash to rip them off now. I would only stay stock size tires if I found OEM take offs for a steal. It seems like those days are over since covid though. 28s in whatever configuration that floats your boat. I think @JACKAL has a 29 inch tire that will fit without doing the a-arms. I can't remember what tire it is but maybe he will chime in. You can't pay attention to the height claims because every tire manufacturer seems to be full of s***.

So true…..The 29” Terrabites I had only measured a little over 28” when they were new.

 

[RacinJasonWV]

So true…..The 29” Terrabites I had only measured a little over 28” when they were new.

That’s interesting. I was sticking to 28’s since the research showed that was as big as we could go with a completely stock buggy.

Terrabites show the 29’s as available in the stock 9 & 11” widths. Considering they measure short, wonder if anyone has tried those with a stock 22+ P1k?
I’ll have to do some searching later.

Decisions decisions.

 

[RacinJasonWV]

28x10s are pretty narrow on stock rear wheel. You will likely notice they are hard on the tire side walls and you'll see more damage to the wheels. You also increase your chances of having the tire come off the bead. I didn't like running mine on stock wheels and quickly switched to 4 matching 14x7 wheels. If you wanted to run stock wheels 28x10s are a good fit on the narrower stock front wheels

Decided to just stick with stock size for now. Various factors, but what Todd said above was part of it. After looking at the 11’s on the rear wheel there’s already not a lot of bulge. I tend to agree that narrower might allow more wheel damage or want to unseat more easily.

This was the cheaper and easier option for us, not needing to worry about spacers etc. So for now this is how we’ll ride. Maybe some day I’ll jump into some other wheels. I’d love to know if the 29” Terrabites would fit an all stock buggy but wasn’t willing to test it and then need other unplanned mods to make them fit without rubbing.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Now to figure out what pressure to run. 🤦‍♂️
Been reading through some posts especially the one with the poll, but seems like mostly personal preference. Had been running the Honda recommended 20# but it definitely runs them with a crown and wears the centers (at least on stock tires). Need to do some testing to find the best compromise for our riding style.

Ended up ordering from Pureoffroad.com This is the second time I’ve used them and been treated well both times. Arrived in 2 days plus a free shirt.
Of course their sticker is gonna add +10hp and then our orange buggy will be almost as fast as a red one!

Some photos

Before

After

11” sidewall on stock wheel