P1000 all the vent hoses and locations

[ua13gt]

I extended the vent line on this box as well. It is located underneath machine behind the drivers seat, I'm not sure what it does.

 

[joeymt33]

What is that? Anyone know? Now I've got to go check that out.

 

[itsleo]

 

[joeymt33]

Thank you sharing. Looks like a good job done.

 

[PioneerPete]

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Nice itsleo! Thanks for all the detailed pics.

 

[joeymt33]

I extended the vent line on this box as well. It is located underneath machine behind the drivers seat, I'm not sure what it does.

I did the same thing this evening. I had an extra bellow so I put that on there.



I think this box contains the adjustments for cable operated shifters. Not completely sure on this but seems like I saw a picture of it somewhere.

 

[HondaTim]

Seems like I read an article that the diffs and transfer case need to breathe to prevent stale moisture from turning acidic and causing breakdown of the fluids.

Could have been related to something else....

Anymore information on this?

 

[Johnny_C]

Won't the bellows allow the
fluids to breath in & out and
keep water out? Or do they
have a hole in them?

Are you putting the bellows
on the extension tubes?

Good thread.

John

Anymore information on this?

 

[joeymt33]

Won't the bellows allow the
fluids to breath in & out and
keep water out? Or do they
have a hole in them?

Are you putting the bellows
on the extension tubes?

Good thread.

John

The bellows do not have holes in them. I have not used extension tubes for any of the 4 bellows I've used. That can go completely under water and not allow contaminates in.

For example, when you first start driving, the bellow will inflate and expand as the differential (or sub trans) warms up. When going in deep water, the diff will cool and deflate the bellow as the air inside the diff cools. Therefore, no extension is needed. This mod converts an open vented system to a closed system.

 

[HondaTim]

The bellows do not have holes in them. I have not used extension tubes for any of the 4 bellows I've used. That can go completely under water and not allow contaminates in.

For example, when you first start driving, the bellow will inflate and expand as the differential (or sub trans) warms up. When going in deep water, the diff will cool and deflate the bellow as the air inside the diff cools. Therefore, no extension is needed. This mod converts an open vented system to a closed system.

I was asking about the post that stated with them not being able to breathe through a vent line will it cause the fluids to become acidic and start breaking down?

 

[HondaTim]

Seems like I read an article that the diffs and transfer case need to breathe to prevent stale moisture from turning acidic and causing breakdown of the fluids.

Could have been related to something else....

Which is this post.

 

[joeymt33]

I was asking about the post that stated with them not being able to breathe through a vent line will it cause the fluids to become acidic and start breaking down?

Ok, I don't have a definitive answer for you. The quote above was directed to johnny's question which is why I copied his quote.

I can make an statement on your question though.

I have not heard of any acidic problems by removing the vent. I would think this would be commonly talked about if it were a problem. Also, if you follow Honda's service guide by changing the diff oils every two years you are keeping the fluid fresh.

I hope this helps. Maybe some others can chime in and let us know if they've heard of it.

 

[HondaTim]

Ok, I don't have a definitive answer for you. The quote above was directed to johnny's question which is why I copied his quote.

I can make an statement on your question though.

I have not heard of any acidic problems by removing the vent. I would think this would be commonly talked about if it were a problem. Also, if you follow Honda's service guide by changing the diff oils every two years you are keeping the fluid fresh.

I hope this helps. Maybe some others can chime in and let us know if they've heard of it.

10 4 thanks

 

[joeymt33]

Have you read this somewhere else? Do you have some information for us that maybe would help us learn about a potential problem?

If this is true, I would be at a potential risk as I have placed Bellows on four different parts of my pioneer

 

[HondaTim]

Seems like I read an article that the diffs and transfer case need to breathe to prevent stale moisture from turning acidic and causing breakdown of the fluids.

Could have been related to something else....

That's where it came from ... It's on the second page if your using Taptalk

 

[HondaTim]

Excuse me ... First page at the bottom

 

[Johnny_C]

I think I misunderstood this.

Do the 1k's come with the bellows, or are you
adding them where needed?

If you are adding them, what is the part
number?

John

Excuse me ... First page at the bottom

 

[Johnny_C]

Artic Cat bellows?

How many do we need.

I like 'em!

Thanks!

John

I think I misunderstood this.

Do the 1k's come with the bellows, or are you
adding them where needed?

If you are adding them, what is the part
number?

John

 

[Donnie]

Sorry guys, I can't find that article I read about the fluid needing to breathe. I ran across several discussions regarding over-pressurization of the housings when changing altitudes (i.e. going from 5,000 feet to 12,000 feet) and blowing oil past the seals once the bellows reaches full expansion. I guess as long as you burp it when crossing large altitude changes it should be ok.

I would think over-pressurization would be a more immediate concern.

 

[joeymt33]

That's a good point. Thanks for sharing. I don't plan on going higher than a mile, I wish I could though.