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Yeh I know.... that buddy of yours is the only guy I know who had and aftermarket...... like I said... I wonder if these are any better.... I am getting ready to tear into mine and put the spaal fan on... but am hesitant to go with the bigger radiator....
especially since one is a more expensive version....I wonder if it is bigger... I couldn’t find dimensions.... nor did I ever hear that Honda had finally modified anything...
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Looks to be China junk, they make car radiators and don't seem to be very reputable.
Like the $40 dirt bike radiators on ebay, they'll do the job. But don't expect gold for pennies.
Like the $40 dirt bike radiators on ebay, they'll do the job. But don't expect gold for pennies.
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I understand.... but three years later I am still overheating at altitude and getting ready to fix it my self.....@cuoutdoors is the only person I know who solved the problem,....
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I dont have any faith in that product. Probably be lucky if it even fits and I doubt it cools better. The fan upgrade will help a lot especially if you add in a manual switch. I think for most people thats probably enough.. Otherwise the one from TCP definitely works well.
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If you get the fan just add the manual switch so you can run it full time when you are riding at altitude. I can't promise that will solve it but definitely help. When we went to moab all 3 pioneers over heated climbing the paved road up the mountain. I dont know if they had full time fan switches..... @Ragnar406 @GlockMeister
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Interesting there is a different one for 2020. Implies something was changed. Did Honda upgrade it a bit without telling anyone? Are 2020 owners having this issue?
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I added the manual switch.... then started having problems with the sensors... Honda has replaced two of them but I haven’t gotten to take it out since.... my dual battery isolator was bad last time they replaced a sensor .....it has been a comedy of stuff complicated by the fact I bought the damn five year warranty for the first and last time in my life.....
so instead of fixing it myself I keep thinking they should fix it... but it is two hours plus to the dealer... then when they get part in stock another trip to get it installed....
i am not expecting violin music here... but I think the system has been best described as marginal at best....
hoping the fan solves it.... I am waiting on Rmax 4 to start appearing in better supply for the summer..... pioneer will go to the ranch for utility work.....
KRX looks awesome but just seems to not fit what I need.....
thanks for the advice
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I've got the Engine Watchdog which controls my fan and allows me to watch the actual temp... that allowed me to make it a bit further up than the other 2 pioneers before I had to pull over and cool it off with the sprayer. The watchdog doesn't have a fan timeout like oem so it was running constantly but it still couldn't keep up. Before the trip, I replaced all the coolant and at two seperate times I had it on a very steep incline, running it for over an hour to make sure I had all bubbles out.
I think for some machines, there's nothing you can do besides a spaal fan or radiator swap to fix it. Maybe it's the tolerances around the poorly designed shroud or some fans just aren't pulling at their best, but there's machines that make it fine and machines that don't, no matter what.
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We were going up into the mountains on a dirt road, running normal speeds I'd say, below 45 for sure... this was early Oct and I think the temps were around mid to high 80's in Moab.
Edited to clarify - I was driving one of the Pioneers on the trip.
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In the area we overheated it was like 75-80. Moving fast enough for air flow. Yes its an issue and Honda doesn't care.
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