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[Montecresto]

California is so goofed up I wonder why anyone would want it.

Actually I was raised in San Diego, back in the 60's I thought California was cool. Far less population then, you could be in Tijuana in 30 minutes, (back when it was actually safe and enjoyable to do so) the beech in 20 minutes, the Sierra Nevada mountains in 45 minutes, and the desert in 90 minutes. It was very cool growing up there.

 

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[cthack]

So there was an old lady walking through the woods (blue bandana in the photo) that said she lived not too far away, alone. We were asking her if she new the history of this church and she said that the original structure, that being the portion with the bell tower, was built during the Spanish land grant days, or pre 1828 when Mexico won their independence from Spain. The addition from the early 1900's. She also said that for about 5 years squatters were living in it, thus the newish stove pipe coming out of the addition. She also told us that it was a sect of the Catholic Church that practiced self flagellance, and there is a shrine (that I forgot to take a picture of) a couple hundred feet distant that they would drag a cross to and perform their penance. The two oldest cities in North America, both founded by the Spanish, St Augustine Florida 1565 and Santa Fe New Mexico, 1609.

Thanks for sharing Monte! I love history. If folks in our country paid more attention to history, we would be less likely to repeat the same mistakes made by us and other countries around the world.

 

[Montecresto]

Thanks for sharing Monte! I love history. If folks in our country paid more attention to history, we would be less likely to repeat the same mistakes made by us and other countries around the world.

You bet ct, I agree and I share your interest in history. The Santa Fe trail lies just a few miles from my property and the ruins of Ft Union, built in 1850 to protect the trail is just 20 miles north, out on the plains, standing there like a ghost.

 

[Miss_Oak]

Actually I was raised in San Diego, back in the 60's I thought California was cool. Far less population then, you could be in Tijuana in 30 minutes, (back when it was actually safe and enjoyable to do so) the beech in 20 minutes, the Sierra Nevada mountains in 45 minutes, and the desert in 90 minutes. It was very cool growing up there.

You are so right Monte! California used to be an awesome place. It's still a beautiful state but has just gone downhill in so many ways...
I imagine like a lot of other places in our beautiful United States of America.

 

[Montecresto]

You are so right Monte! California used to be an awesome place. It's still a beautiful state but has just gone downhill in so many ways...
I imagine like a lot of other places in our beautiful United States of America.

Yep, it remains one of the prettiest states in the union, almost certainly the most diverse. But liberalism is ruining it in so many ways, and a failed immigration policy that can be blamed on both parties sense neither have ever secured our border. When I was a kid growing up, illegal immigrants (that we unwittingly called wetbacks) made themselves scarce. You might see them living in a shack on a ranchers property doing menial labor. Now, they operate in the open with impunity. They no longer just take jobs that American's don't like, they are finding employment in all areas, and businesses aren't punished for hiring them like they should be. I would think that the area you're located in is not as affected by this as Southern California.

 

[JTW]

California is so goofed up I wonder why anyone would want it.

It's geographically perfect.. its the crazy inhabitants that have ruined it!

 

[JTW]

Who's taken over New Mexico?

Not the old ones but the new Mexicans... duhhh!

 

[JTW]

I think JTW and I long for the good old days of Manifest Destiny.

Lol.. I just long for a time with less PC bulls***, fewer dumbasses and being able to settle things with killing.

 

[JTW]

So there was an old lady walking through the woods (blue bandana in the photo) that said she lived not too far away, alone. We were asking her if she new the history of this church and she said that the original structure, that being the portion with the bell tower, was built during the Spanish land grant days, or pre 1828 when Mexico won their independence from Spain. The addition from the early 1900's. She also said that for about 5 years squatters were living in it, thus the newish stove pipe coming out of the addition. She also told us that it was a sect of the Catholic Church that practiced self flagellance, and there is a shrine (that I forgot to take a picture of) a couple hundred feet distant that they would drag a cross to and perform their penance. The two oldest cities in North America, both founded by the Spanish, St Augustine Florida 1565 and Santa Fe New Mexico, 1609.

Very cool!

 

[JTW]

Actually I was raised in San Diego, back in the 60's I thought California was cool. Far less population then, you could be in Tijuana in 30 minutes, (back when it was actually safe and enjoyable to do so) the beech in 20 minutes, the Sierra Nevada mountains in 45 minutes, and the desert in 90 minutes. It was very cool growing up there.

That explains a lot actually!! You grew up in California in the 60's...yup that's it! Lol

 

[JTW]

Yep, it remains one of the prettiest states in the union, almost certainly the most diverse. But liberalism is ruining it in so many ways, and a failed immigration policy that can be blamed on both parties sense neither have ever secured our border. When I was a kid growing up, illegal immigrants (that we unwittingly called wetbacks) made themselves scarce. You might see them living in a shack on a ranchers property doing menial labor. Now, they operate in the open with impunity. They no longer just take jobs that American's don't like, they are finding employment in all areas, and businesses aren't punished for hiring them like they should be. I would think that the area you're located in is not as affected by this as Southern California.

Well said my friend!

 

[Montecresto]

That explains a lot actually!! You grew up in California in the 60's...yup that's it! Lol

Got the hell out.

 

[Montecresto]

Not the old ones but the new Mexicans... duhhh!

I don't think you understand its history or its politics.

 

[JTW]

I don't think you understand its history or its politics.

I don't think you understand my level of sarcasm!!

 

[Montecresto]

I don't think you understand my level of sarcasm!!

Like I said.

 

[JTW]

Like I said.

What??

 

[Montecresto]

What??

Of course I know, everybody knows you're sarcastic.

 

[JTW]

Of course I know, everybody knows you're sarcastic.

No way?? I'm I that overt?

 

[Shadesmn]

@JTW i'm picking up what you're throwing down. You operate on expert level in sarcasm. And @Montecresto i also very much enjoy your history lesson(s). Funny how it's far more interesting as a adult sized child than as an actual child when you first learn of these type of things. Couldn't understand why anyone enjoyed the history channel when I was a kid, and now I can almost always find a reason to watch it.

 

[JTW]

@JTW i'm picking up what you're throwing down. You operate on expert level in sarcasm. And @Montecresto i also very much enjoy your history lesson(s). Funny how it's far more interesting as a adult sized child than as an actual child when you first learn of these type of things. Couldn't understand why anyone enjoyed the history channel when I was a kid, and now I can almost always find a reason to watch it.

Lol.. I'm really quite shy in person!

Yeah.. it's just a shame it's not history on it.. it's mostly reality shows and garbage!