P500 Coolant

[Gator]

Someone needs to test the Red Line. I'm not sure how.

 

[Admin]

 

[joeymt33]

These additives will possibly help a vehicle that is running hot. We have thermostats that will keep the temp where the engineers want it to be.

These products claim to reduce temp by 20° and they may do so but your engine would first need to be 20° over the stat rating.

If someone wants to test it, use a infrared thermometer and read the same location each time you perform the test. You would need to get the engine to operating temperature and run it very hard to try to make it get really hot and and then you'd want to do the exact same thing again with the additive.

A good location to test the temperature could be on a flat surface on the radiator.

This is interesting enough and cheap enough that I may try it sometime.

 

[rocmar]

These additives will possibly help a vehicle that is running hot. We have thermostats that will keep the temp where the engineers want it to be.

These products claim to reduce temp by 20° and they may do so but your engine would first need to be 20° over the stat rating.

If someone wants to test it, use a infrared thermometer and read the same location each time you perform the test. You would need to get the engine to operating temperature and run it very hard to try to make it get really hot and and then you'd want to do the exact same thing again with the additive.

A good location to test the temperature could be on a flat surface on the radiator.

This is interesting enough and cheap enough that I may try it sometime.

There's nothing better
than 50/50 antifreeze
Your thermostat controls the engine
temp....and mine does a great job

 

[Moose308]

Anyone doing there's soon?Just
I would like to request some clear pictures of the different steps involved so I can build a how too.

Just did my Honda 2014 foreman 500. Same motor as p500. I removed the bottom bolt at the water pump cover and removed radiator cap.Flushed with distilled water. Had a little bit of bad stuff come out when flushing. Also drained overflow tank and replaced sealing washer on the water pump cover. I know the P500 has a in line air bleed bolt and sealing washer. Trying to figure out how to do that part.

 

[rocmar]

Owners manual is a guide...
as a experienced rider
you should know your
machine...I drive in very
dusty conditions. ..so my
maintenance is more often
on cleaning air filter & changing
of oil....

 

[Moose308]

Talked to a Honda tech. and he was saying to open the bleed screw ,fill fluid until it comes out and then close screw.Pretty much common sense.

 

[oldfortyfive]

I pretty much stopped changing/flushing my cars 25 years ago. There's pretty much always some type of service that ends up needing done that requires the system be drained anyway. Can't say I've ever had a problem that I could blame on not doing it. I typically drive about 25,000/year. That said I wouldn't let it go more than 5-6 years.

 

[trigger]

I pretty much stopped changing/flushing my cars 25 years ago. There's pretty much always some type of service that ends up needing done that requires the system be drained anyway. Can't say I've ever had a problem that I could blame on not doing it. I typically drive about 25,000/year. That said I wouldn't let it go more than 5-6 years.

I hear ya' 45...but then I end up asking myself if that's why the water pump went out or heater core started puking.
May have had nothing to do with it but...

 

[rocmar]

I go 5 yrs
on all coolant......
never had a problem

 

[rocmar]

Once again...the manual is a
.....GUIDE.....
Common Sense
Needed

 

[Montecresto]

I hear ya' 45...but then I end up asking myself if that's why the water pump went out or heater core started puking.
May have had nothing to do with it but...

Exactly, the manufacturer of the product says that it begins to break down at two years, this is why Honda and others recommend replacing it at those intervals. It's not a difficult task nor expensive.

 

[rocmar]

Manufacturer wants you to buy
3 yrs before needed
COMMON SENSE
I been doing this long enough
to know....
Anti Freeze 50/50
=5 yrs

 

[oldfortyfive]

I hear ya' 45...but then I end up asking myself if that's why the water pump went out or heater core started puking.
May have had nothing to do with it but...

Living in communist Illinois with all it's road salt pretty much guarantees a new radiator every 150,000 miles or so. My old Explorer had 205,000 miles on it when I finally replaced the water pump. And then only because it was convenient as the radiator and air coils rotted through from the outside. Never lost a heater core that was less than 20 years old. My old 77 Chevy van's heater core made it 30 plus years. My never vehicles with timing belts that are changed every 60,000 or so miles typically get a water pump while it's easy. Basically the coolant rarely goes more than 5 years without some excuse to change it.

 

[Montecresto]

I'm curious why you would change your coolant? Thanks

From "Car Talk"

Should coolant be changed on recommended intervals?
Yes. Draining out the coolant and refilling the system removes dirt and rust particles that can clog up the cooling system and cause problems in winter and summer.

Why do I have to do this?
Because it is operating in a hot, hostile environment, coolant will break down over time. Most importantly, the coolant's rust inhibitors get used up, leaving the small cooling passages in your engine and radiator vulnerable to corrosion. Even with these rust inhibitors, some corrosion will inevitably take place, contaminating the coolant with debris.

 

[trigger]

From "Car Talk"

Should coolant be changed on recommended intervals?
Yes. Draining out the coolant and refilling the system removes dirt and rust particles that can clog up the cooling system and cause problems in winter and summer.

Why do I have to do this?
Because it is operating in a hot, hostile environment, coolant will break down over time. Most importantly, the coolant's rust inhibitors get used up, leaving the small cooling passages in your engine and radiator vulnerable to corrosion. Even with these rust inhibitors, some corrosion will inevitably take place, contaminating the coolant with debris.

Yeah, I remember having skin floating in the reservoir back in the day. Something happens to it.

 

[rocmar]

Don't need some Talk Radio
Dude,,,,,to tell me....There's a
visual overflow ...which holds
your antifreeze. .if the color is
good....it's good
I'd rather ride...than
change fluids cause some
dude says so...I'll decide
my way worked for 40
yrs...

 

[Montecresto]

Yeah, I remember having skin floating in the reservoir back in the day. Something happens to it.

Yeah, I've seen that before too.

 

[oldfortyfive]

Now days most people use premix antifreeze which is usually a good thing. I always used distilled water when mixing and always drained any tap water out. Water quality varies greatly around the country. The company I work for uses aluminum water tanks on many of their trucks. Typically the tanks last the life of the truck except is some areas. There are a few places in Wisconsin where the water will corrode through the 1/8" thick tanks in 6 months. Locally our water is not friendly to cooling systems.

 

[Montecresto]

Now days most people use premix antifreeze which is usually a good thing. I always used distilled water when mixing and always drained any tap water out. Water quality varies greatly around the country. The company I work for uses aluminum water tanks on many of their trucks. Typically the tanks last the life of the truck except is some areas. There are a few places in Wisconsin where the water will corrode through the 1/8" thick tanks in 6 months. Locally our water is not friendly to cooling systems.

I like that, distilled water. I use it in my solar batteries because it's free of any mineral contaminants so that makes complete sense to me.

 

[Moose308]

From "Car Talk"

Should coolant be changed on recommended intervals?
Yes. Draining out the coolant and refilling the system removes dirt and rust particles that can clog up the cooling system and cause problems in winter and summer.

Why do I have to do this?
Because it is operating in a hot, hostile environment, coolant will break down over time. Most importantly, the coolant's rust inhibitors get used up, leaving the small cooling passages in your engine and radiator vulnerable to corrosion. Even with these rust inhibitors, some corrosion will inevitably take place, contaminating the coolant with debris.

From "Car Talk"

Should coolant be changed on recommended intervals?
Yes. Draining out the coolant and refilling the system removes dirt and rust particles that can clog up the cooling system and cause problems in winter and summer.

Why do I have to do this?
Because it is operating in a hot, hostile environment, coolant will break down over time. Most importantly, the coolant's rust inhibitors get used up, leaving the small cooling passages in your engine and radiator vulnerable to corrosion. Even with these rust inhibitors, some corrosion will inevitably take place, contaminating the coolant with debris.

Just changed my coolant. Looked pretty good but the new Honda brand coolant is blue.Supposed to be improved. I like fresh fluids. Less problems.