P1000 DEI Heat shield problem 2023 PK1-5 Forest

[DawgU]

First, apparently if one is good, two's not necessarily better . Decided I would try to install both the DEI and the Quick Shield. The DEI is not made for a '23. Have multiple push pins where there are no holes in the shield. Also sometimes HELL trying to get push pin in even when there is a hole. Those problems exist without any presence of the Quick Shield.

Suggestions? I'm just trying going without the push pins where there's not a hole.

 

[Robobrainiac]

You could install rivnuts where the push pins are. Then you can have as thick of coverage as you desire. Just hold it all together with bolts.

 

[DawgU]

You could install rivnuts where the push pins are. Then you can have as thick of coverage as you desire. Just hold it all together with bolts.

Well I had ordered a rivnut tool yesterday for my skid plate install, so that sounds awesome! Never used one before. Will it work with flat plastic to flat plastic? Thank you!!!

 

[Robobrainiac]

Well I had ordered a rivnut tool yesterday for my skid plate install, so that sounds awesome! Never used one before. Will it work with flat plastic to flat plastic? Thank you!!!

This is the style I would use when installing into plastic.

https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Installation-Threaded-Pressboard-Hardboard/dp/B0BY1Z3T4P/?tag=sxsweb24-20

I have used this style on many areas of my pioneer where I want anchors into my plastic.

I am not sure if it would work on floppy rubber. Although my brain says if you used a washer on the backside you could probably attach them to rubber like a ring attaches to a tarp.

 

[Robobrainiac]

Well I had ordered a rivnut tool yesterday for my skid plate install, so that sounds awesome! Never used one before. Will it work with flat plastic to flat plastic? Thank you!!!

I used rivnuts under my seat for my under seat fan bracket. The names can sometimes be confusing.
I used rivnuts for my skid plate.
I used shank nuts for all my plastic areas.


These are typically rivnuts
I use these in metal. They slightly swell and make a solid contact.




These are typically called jack nuts.
I use these in plastic. You can see how the back swells larger which typically makes better spread contact on plastic.




These are typically called pre bulbed shank nuts. I personally prefer these over the jack nuts because the walls are typically thicker and it feels like a more solid nut placed into plastic. They are sometimes harder to find and more expensive. They spread the same way the jack nuts do.



I use both of these style of tools depending on the location and ability I can reach the area with.

 

[Robobrainiac]

Well I had ordered a rivnut tool yesterday for my skid plate install, so that sounds awesome! Never used one before. Will it work with flat plastic to flat plastic? Thank you!!!

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Post #154 is my layers of heat defense experience.

 

[ChadD]

I used rivnuts under my seat for my under seat fan bracket. The names can sometimes be confusing.
I used rivnuts for my skid plate.
I used shank nuts for all my plastic areas.


These are typically rivnuts
I use these in metal. They slightly swell and make a solid contact.

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These are typically called jack nuts.
I use these in plastic. You can see how the back swells larger which typically makes better spread contact on plastic.


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These are typically called pre bulbed shank nuts. I personally prefer these over the jack nuts because the walls are typically thicker and it feels like a more solid nut placed into plastic. They are sometimes harder to find and more expensive. They spread the same way the jack nuts do.
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I use both of these style of tools depending on the location and ability I can reach the area with.


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You sound like a Yamaha owner with all that knowledge about nuts 🙄🤣🦩



#NTC
#NOMO

 

[Bighat]

First, apparently if one is good, two's not necessarily better . Decided I would try to install both the DEI and the Quick Shield. The DEI is not made for a '23. Have multiple push pins where there are no holes in the shield. Also sometimes HELL trying to get push pin in even when there is a hole. Those problems exist without any presence of the Quick Shield.

Suggestions? I'm just trying going without the push pins where there's not a hole.

With the new cover honda has under the seat I would think you could use a thicker heat shield. I haven't made one myself but I did look into it. Here's some links: Thermo Tec 14100: Cool-It Mat 24" x 48" - JEGS

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You could install them with rivots, spray glue, velco, etc. You want the shinny side down toward the engine compartment.

 

[Backwoods]

You sound like a Yamaha owner with all that knowledge about the females🙄🤣🦩
But I’m a vegetarian myself. I don’t eat meat but I sure like the bone


#NTC
#very Homo I am

It figures

 

[DawgU]

Got both shields installed today. The rivnuts were awesome! Thank you Robobrainiac!!! Took it for a good test drive today afterwards. Difference is amazing!

 

[Robobrainiac]

Got both shields installed today. The rivnuts were awesome! Thank you Robobrainiac!!! Took it for a good test drive today afterwards. Difference is amazing!

I am glad it worked out. My wife and I feel the shields and fan do a very good job at reducing heat. I think a full rubber sheet should have been factory provided for sure.