P1000 Dual Batterys and a horse with no legs

[Hondasxs]

Its fixable.
Mess with it in a few. But with the exception of the winch contactor wires it looks good.

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[nitzo]

Also, the 7 pin on-off-on switch I have has a permanent jumper b/t the 2 and 5, that needs to be removed, correct?

This is the switch:
Carling Technologies Sealed Lighted Rocker Switch DPDT 7 Connections w/Rocker Actuator Red Lens

 

[Hondasxs]

I need some of those jumpers.

Yes. Removed it.

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[Hondasxs]

I need to find a bunch of those jumpers. Does anyone know where to get them?

 

[nitzo]

I need to find a bunch of those jumpers. Does anyone know where to get them?

That one came on the switch, maybe you can get them from Carling

 

[nitzo]

Coming right along on the build. I'm taking my time, only working a couple hours a day on the weekends, trying to keep this a fun project instead of a "must get it done" job.

 

[nitzo]

A tad more done today. I got the blue sea fuse panel and the relays mounted.
I also decided on the location for the winch relay. The winch is pretty much self contained all I'm doing is providing power to it, all the controls, switches are pre-wired and I'm going with that.

 

[nitzo]

Well, I got it all together this afternoon. I'll post pics when I get all the wires routed right and tie wrapped. I'm pleased with the set-up, it was a lot of work but worth it. So far I only have one issue and I'll have to trace it down and figure it out. The dual volt meters aren't working correctly. I'm getting the same reading on both meters. I'm not sure which one it's reading but it's the same, Batt 1 or 2, I'm not sure, I ran out of time.

Ya'll's help was and is appreciated

 

[ehart814]

Well, I got it all together this afternoon. I'll post pics when I get all the wires routed right and tie wrapped. I'm pleased with the set-up, it was a lot of work but worth it. So far I only have one issue and I'll have to trace it down and figure it out. The dual volt meters aren't working correctly. I'm getting the same reading on both meters. I'm not sure which one it's reading but it's the same, Batt 1 or 2, I'm not sure, I ran out of time.

Ya'll's help was and is appreciated

I had to switch the blue and green wire because they read backwards. I don’t think I made a mistake but it’s fixed. I would double check that those connections on the back of the gauge aren’t shorting to each other. They are way too close together I think.


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[nitzo]

They are way too close together I think.

I agree 100%.

I have it fixed now. What I originally did was try and reserve space and put different low amperage circuits together into one circuit. Well I separated everything and now they (the volt meters) each read as they should. I guess I just had to much going and had to backup a bit and figure it out.

One thing, maybe someone can explain this to me: When I start the machine for a brief second on voltmeter 1 I will see maybe 11 or 12 volts, as soon as it starts vm1(voltmeter 1) will read 14 volts, volt meter 2 (vm2) will read 12 volts maybe, then within maybe 2 or 3 seconds will climb to 14 volts like vm1, both meters will stay the same from then on. Now, if I hit my winch, both meters will drop to say 13.3 then with in 2 seconds or so climb back to 14. Can someone tell me what exactly is taking place? I get the voltage climbing, I know its charging, but why the meters read what they do, I have no clue.

Also done tonight, light bar installed and working:




Wiring is done, I just have to tidy it all up. I'm not sure what to do with those winch wires, I've cut a few and made them fit, I guess I'll have to do the rest, they really make it look ugly with them being so long and all.

 

[Hondasxs]

When the blue light is "on" both batteries are combined. Therefore they will read the same in most cases. Especially if you are reading from the isolator bolts.

The mark is 12.8v. Above that they will be same or very close. Below that they are separated and will read very different.

Cranking the primary will drop until running. Secondary may also pull down some, until it disconnects.


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[Hondasxs]

Wiring is done, I just have to tidy it all up. I'm not sure what to do with those winch wires, I've cut a few and made them fit, I guess I'll have to do the rest, they really make it look ugly with them being so long and all.

Yes. You need to remove all that coiled up wire. Otherwise it will create an inductive effect and could cause problems. Especially being large guage.

 

[nitzo]

Yes. You need to remove all that coiled up wire. Otherwise it will create an inductive effect and could cause problems. Especially being large guage.

Wow, I didn't even think of that. I've hooked up thousands of transformers, I should have seen that.

Thanks .

 

[nitzo]

FINISHED!!!!!! It's not as neat as some, but it all works and since I did it I know how it's all hooked up, so when something goes bad, as it will, I'll hopefully be able to troubleshoot it and fix it.

I thank you all for the help.

 

[ehart814]

This is the switch:
Carling Technologies Sealed Lighted Rocker Switch DPDT 7 Connections w/Rocker Actuator Red Lens

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I am about to tackle this switch install.

I have my second battery, isolator kit, circuit breaker, stinger, and blue sea fuse box all installed. I just need to wire this switch in to have the option of key-off accessories.

So looking through the thread and I am still not sure about wiring that switch. I understand the jumper needs to be removed and then one of those posts is the key on power feed, and the other is positive from the battery. I can see the ground position. Other than that, I think the only other wire would be the output to trigger the stinger.

Anyhow, can someone show me exactly how to wire that switch to get it working right?

 

[Hondasxs]

I am about to tackle this switch install.

I have my second battery, isolator kit, circuit breaker, stinger, and blue sea fuse box all installed. I just need to wire this switch in to have the option of key-off accessories.

So looking through the thread and I am still not sure about wiring that switch. I understand the jumper needs to be removed and then one of those posts is the key on power feed, and the other is positive from the battery. I can see the ground position. Other than that, I think the only other wire would be the output to trigger the stinger.

Anyhow, can someone show me exactly how to wire that switch to get it working right?

Post #13 is a example. Jumper is kept here.

Removing or keeping the jumper all depends on what you want to do with your setup.

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[ehart814]

Well now I’m even more confused. I thought that if I wanted to have a key on position and an option to flip the switch the other way so that I can use the accessories with the key off, then I would need to remove the jumper and connect a key on power to one of the posts and a hot wire straight to the battery to the other post.


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[ehart814]

Post #13 is a example. Jumper is kept here.

Removing or keeping the jumper all depends on what you want to do with your setup.

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Ok I looked at that post. My switch didn’t even come with the jumper so I guess I need to make one.


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[Hondasxs]

All depends on your needs and how you want to do it. There are several ways and all are correct.

First. This whole thread has been based off a relay type system. Not a direct power system

This is one method I like since most people use a positive buss. This puts just the panel on a 5 amp fuse.

But if all your sources were fused already. Then using the jumper would be fine too I guess.


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[nitzo]

All depends on your needs and how you want to do it. There are several ways and all are correct.

First. This whole thread has been based off a relay type system. Not a direct power system

This is one method I like since most people use a positive buss. This puts just the panel on a 5 amp fuse. View attachment 163207

But if all your sources were fused already. Then using the jumper would be fine too I guess.

For what it's worth to anyone planning on doing the set-up I used. I put nearly 100 miles on some rough nasty trails this weekend and the wiring job worked perfectly, I have not single complaint.

I have to thank all the guys that gave me input, I would not have had a clues to how to do it if ya'll wouldn't have helped.