P500 Hi-Lift mount

[Sledge]

This is mentioned in several threads, but I decided to start a specific one.

I really liked Alan's "bumper" mount, and ordered the tube mounts from RMATV. I almost cut my 4' jack to 3' while waiting for the mounts to arrive, but I'm glad I didn't.

The 4' jack only has 3' of travel available, so has 50% more than the 3' UTV jack.

I mounted it up front with one end where it would be with a 3' jack centered, and turned the wheel to lock. Drove up against a tree.

The 3' jack would catch when the wheel was still 2" from the tree. To prevent interference, it looks to me like the jack could only be ~32" long. Maybe a bit less.

That would mean giving up roughly half of jack travel. No way I'm doing that, nor am I willing to give up tight-space maneuverability.

So...I mounted it on the cage. I can keep the full utility of the 4' jack, and I'm not fully sold on the need for a bumper anyway, given my slowpoke riding style.

I'm gonna hit it with a coat of black Krylon and call it good.

It'll keep my Sally-girl from face-planting into or over the dash in a panic stop, too.

Please, Alan or others, let me know if I'm missing something here.

Joe

 

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[Montecresto]

Looks good Joe!

 

[pFive]

I took mine out of the barn today and was pondering mounting it, but it is just too much weight for me. If I were going to mount it I would want it as low as possible to help with the CG.

 

[Alan aka Davinci]

View attachment 14903 This is mentioned in several threads, but I decided to start a specific one.

I really liked Alan's "bumper" mount, and ordered the tube mounts from RMATV. I almost cut my 4' jack to 3' while waiting for the mounts to arrive, but I'm glad I didn't.

The 4' jack only has 3' of travel available, so has 50% more than the 3' UTV jack.

I mounted it up front with one end where it would be with a 3' jack centered, and turned the wheel to lock. Drove up against a tree.

The 3' jack would catch when the wheel was still 2" from the tree. To prevent interference, it looks to me like the jack could only be ~32" long. Maybe a bit less.

That would mean giving up roughly half of jack travel. No way I'm doing that, nor am I willing to give up tight-space maneuverability.

So...I mounted it on the cage. I can keep the full utility of the 4' jack, and I'm not fully sold on the need for a bumper anyway, given my slowpoke riding style.

I'm gonna hit it with a coat of black Krylon and call it good.

It'll keep my Sally-girl from face-planting into or over the dash in a panic stop, too.

Please, Alan or others, let me know if I'm missing something here.

Joe

I don't see why that won't work Joe. I hope I never need to find out if my 36" jack does not lift high enough. Where I have mine mounted high on the front I have not encountered any wheel catch and have been in some pretty nasty stuff.

 

[Sledge]

Thanks MC.

P5, I'm a little concerned about raising CG too, but it's <35#, and not too high, I think (hope).

If/when I get a winch, I might not carry it, but for now it's my extraction tool as well as jack.

That's why I'm so concerned about length of travel.

I'd buy a winch tomorrow if I had the wiring skills to set it up properly, but until I find a mechanic I trust, it will have to wait.

Joe

 

[Sledge]

Thanks, Alan. Our posts crossed. I'm not too worried about the short jack as a jack, but giving up a foot of travel as a winch substitute does concern me.

Those mounts sure are well-designed and built. Thanks for suggesting them. $50 seemed a little high, but once I received them I realized it wasn't.

Joe

 

[Montecresto]

Thanks, Alan. Our posts crossed. I'm not too worried about the short jack as a jack, but giving up a foot of travel as a winch substitute does concern me.

Those mounts sure are well-designed and built. Thanks for suggesting them. $50 seemed a little high, but once I received them I realized it wasn't.

Joe

If you get a chance sometime, please post a picture of the mounting clamps up close. I'd like to see if I think that they could be used to mount my scissor Jack. Thanks Joe.

 

[Sledge]

Oh, and I didn't explain the "catch" issue very well, I think. I'll try again...

With the jack mounted like yours, I put it on so the right side was where a centered 3' jack would be. Then, with the wheels turned left to lock, the jack would catch or hang up on a tree when the tire was still 2" from the tree.

I only see it as a problem in off-trail, tight situations, but I get into such retrieving game. When I've got game down, I go where I need to, not just where I'm allowed.

Renegade Joe

 

[Sledge]

If you get a chance sometime, please post a picture of the mounting clamps up close. I'd like to see if I think that they could be used to mount my scissor Jack. Thanks Joe.

Amazon.com: Hi-Lift Jack TM-700 1"-2" Adjustable Tube Mount: Automotive

Couldn't get the pic to copy, but here's a link to it.

Joe

 

[Sledge]

Amazon.com: Hi-Lift Jack TM-700 1"-2" Adjustable Tube Mount: Automotive

Couldn't get the pic to copy, but here's a link to it.

Joe

Here's a closeup of my mount.

 

[Alan aka Davinci]

If you get a chance sometime, please post a picture of the mounting clamps up close. I'd like to see if I think that they could be used to mount my scissor Jack. Thanks Joe.

Here you go MC

 

[Alan aka Davinci]

Thanks MC.

P5, I'm a little concerned about raising CG too, but it's <35#, and not too high, I think (hope).

If/when I get a winch, I might not carry it, but for now it's my extraction tool as well as jack.

That's why I'm so concerned about length of travel.

I'd buy a winch tomorrow if I had the wiring skills to set it up properly, but until I find a mechanic I trust, it will have to wait.

Joe

Joe, don't worry about the wiring skills to set up a winch properly, they are really easy to install.

Alan

 

[Montecresto]

Here you go MC

View attachment 14935

Thanks Alan, I appreciate that. Looks like they'll work for my jack as well, very cool.

 

[Montecresto]

View attachment 14932 View attachment 14932
Here's a closeup of my mount.

Thank you Joe, looks like I can use it too.

 

[Sledge]

Ch-ch-ch-changes...

After pfive's mention of CG, I decided to turn the jack over, to get handle weight below beam.

A small thing.

Then I noticed it could go lower, with jack shelf sticking up instead of down. Down she went. About 4".

One thing to watch, MC. The clamps are capable of slightly crushing the tube without realizing it. When I moved them I discovered that I had done so. Not too worried, as the tubes I mounted on are subject mostly to a linear, compression force, I think, but I wouldn't want to compromise the main tubes.

You shouldn't need yours near as tight as I do, given your jack weight, anyway.

Oh, and I took the baseplate off, as Alan did, and put it in the tool bag with shovel, axe, strap, clevis, etc. Couldn't stop it rattling.

Still need to address rattling in jack head. I can stop it with bunjees, but it's not an elegant solution.

Alan, does the neoprene boot stop the rattling entirely?

I hate me a rattle, in any vehicle. Won't have it.

Joe

 

[Alan aka Davinci]

View attachment 14974

Ch-ch-ch-changes...

After pfive's mention of CG, I decided to turn the jack over, to get handle weight below beam.

A small thing.

Then I noticed it could go lower, with jack shelf sticking up instead of down. Down she went. About 4".

One thing to watch, MC. The clamps are capable of slightly crushing the tube without realizing it. When I moved them I discovered that I had done so. Not too worried, as the tubes I mounted on are subject mostly to a linear, compression force, I think, but I wouldn't want to compromise the main tubes.

You shouldn't need yours near as tight as I do, given your jack weight, anyway.

Oh, and I took the baseplate off, as Alan did, and put it in the tool bag with shovel, axe, strap, clevis, etc. Couldn't stop it rattling.

Still need to address rattling in jack head. I can stop it with bunjees, but it's not an elegant solution.

Alan, does the neoprene boot stop the rattling entirely?

I hate me a rattle, in any vehicle. Won't have it.

Joe

The neoprene cover seems to stop the rattling Joe, I have not noticed at all and the handle keeper helped also but you cannot use one because of the knob on the end of your handle the picture look like the handle is secured to your box.

Alan

 

[Sledge]

The neoprene cover seems to stop the rattling Joe, I have not noticed at all and the handle keeper helped also but you cannot use one because of the knob on the end of your handle the picture look like the handle is secured to your box.

Alan

Thanks, Alan. I'm going to order the neoprene cover and a handle keeper then. I think I'll order the fix-it kit too. My old jack could use a rebuild.

I'll just grind down the diameter of the knob as necessary to fit the keeper.

It's kind of a sentimental thing....the old rancher who gave me the jack welded the ball into the handle. He had a scar and a dent in his head from a hi-lift kickback, and he figured the ball made it safer. He was a good friend.

The handle in pic is just hanging loose, not secured to box; I was still working on the mount position.

I sure appreciate your help.

Joe

 

[Montecresto]

View attachment 14974

Ch-ch-ch-changes...

After pfive's mention of CG, I decided to turn the jack over, to get handle weight below beam.

A small thing.

Then I noticed it could go lower, with jack shelf sticking up instead of down. Down she went. About 4".

One thing to watch, MC. The clamps are capable of slightly crushing the tube without realizing it. When I moved them I discovered that I had done so. Not too worried, as the tubes I mounted on are subject mostly to a linear, compression force, I think, but I wouldn't want to compromise the main tubes.

You shouldn't need yours near as tight as I do, given your jack weight, anyway.

Oh, and I took the baseplate off, as Alan did, and put it in the tool bag with shovel, axe, strap, clevis, etc. Couldn't stop it rattling.

Still need to address rattling in jack head. I can stop it with bunjees, but it's not an elegant solution.

Alan, does the neoprene boot stop the rattling entirely?

I hate me a rattle, in any vehicle. Won't have it.

Joe

Whoa!!! Thanks for the heads up. I think I can actually see where your tubes are compressed in that last pic. Like you, I won't have rattles.

 

[Sledge]

Not sure what you're seeing in the pic, MC, but it's not tube damage in that pic. Ain't none.

There are just two small dents on the front (away from camera) side, resulting from Hi-lift's desire to make the clamps fit various tube diameters, and so making the "U" a "V" instead. The flats of the "V" slightly creased the tube.

I tried to take a pic of damage, but it didn't even show up. It's very minor, but worth avoiding if possible, I reckon.

Joe

 

[Montecresto]

Yeah, the tubes look swollen in the pic, but it doesn't matter, I don't want the damage you describe, minimal as it may be so thanks for the warning.