well I was about to pull the trigger on a p-1000 5 but saw the clutch issue with one of the members. I might wait till the 2017 get released. I see a lot of people really like the 1000. I wonder what Honda has in store for 2017. all I know is they need to do something with the Rincon. well give me some feed back on what you all think. should I wait or just go get one.