Honda Talon maximum wattage output?

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Electrical capacity copied from an answer to someone's question. They guy already had aftermarket lighting and wanted more (I don't have that thread so no context).

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Second, that is almost 400 watts just in lights (if they are all on at the same time) and probably a little more due to voltage drop in the wiring. The charging system is pretty big on the Talon (700 watts at 5000 RPM) but the running engine probably takes up around 250 watts. With all the lights on, you are pushing the charging system almost to its max. 13 on the aux battery is almost net charging (12.7 is fully charged for a lead acid battery) so it is barely keeping up at that point. Any more accessories may put you in a discharge state.
 
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Electrical capacity copied from an answer to someone's question. They guy already had aftermarket lighting and wanted more (I don't have that thread so no context).

PaulF on Talon lighting -
Second, that is almost 400 watts just in lights (if they are all on at the same time) and probably a little more due to voltage drop in the wiring. The charging system is pretty big on the Talon (700 watts at 5000 RPM) but the running engine probably takes up around 250 watts. With all the lights on, you are pushing the charging system almost to its max. 13 on the aux battery is almost net charging (12.7 is fully charged for a lead acid battery) so it is barely keeping up at that point. Any more accessories may put you in a discharge state.
Yeah, I know I’m really close.
 
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I’m hoping with the added light and being at a discharge state for a few hours of night riding, it will all get recharged during the day rides.Don’t know for sure.
 
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I’m hoping with the added light and being at a discharge state for a few hours of night riding, it will all get recharged during the day rides.Don’t know for sure.
Are you scared of the dark?
 
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I’m hoping with the added light and being at a discharge state for a few hours of night riding, it will all get recharged during the day rides.Don’t know for sure.
Add a VM, if it's reading above 13.5 volts you should be ok. If not, turn something off. My Talon charges at 14.4 to 14.5 while running (few accessories).
 
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Add a VM, if it's reading above 13.5 volts you should be ok. If not, turn something off. My Talon charges at 14.4 to 14.5 while running (few accessories).
I do have a volt meter for each battery, but don’t want to spend more money on more lighting if I can’t use it.
 
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Sorry, about my calculations earlier guys. I miss read and fuced up!
looks like its all correct now and your ready to rock.

@KenThompson like stated above, best to check your amps and volt draw when your system is running to see what your actually putting out. that will give u a good barring to pit your mind at ease.
 
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Pioneer 500=.481 kW @ 5000 RPM

481 W / 12v = 40.0 Amps

My 2020 500 has about 14.1 volts dc with engine idling and no accessories turned on.
some estimates are that the engine uses 20 amps, leaving about 20 amps which would be 240 watts (20 x 12) for accessories. Drawing more power than that would pull the electrical system voltage down to or below the 12.5 to 13.5 Vdc range which will stop charging or cause a drain of the the battery charge.

So the Talon has more generated power (700 watts) and consumes more amps and watts while running the engine, compared to a smaller engine.

The best thing is to add a voltmeter so you know if the voltage is pulled down to 13.5 Vdc or less, with your lights on and sounds system or whatever, so you could know that your battery is not being charged or is being discharged.

All of these numbers are typical values, not absolute or exact calculations. Voltages vary with engine RPM battery condition, and total power draw on the electrical system.

Some useful experiences commented by everybody on this forum.
 
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I very much appreciate the education guys! I will look at my winch numbers to see how many amps I pull at load.

I'm guessing that I should start adding up all of my electrical demands:
  • Chargers for the phones (x2)
  • Charger for the Ipad for navigation
  • Radios
  • Power steering
  • Headlights
  • Aux lights
  • Winch
  • LED whip
I bet I will max out my available power pretty quick.

Anyone know of a power upgrade for the 500-520s


Rob
 
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LOL... that was for the 500 guy...


As for your setup above.
I think that would be fine, your looking at 30 amps.

FYI, Off brand light bars tend to pull WAY less then listed watts.
Brand names tend to pull closer to the listed watts, but not exact.
Whips are relatively small draw.
I think you are find with that.
Most important, totally ensure it is all to the second battery.
I would assume since Vision X makes lights for NASA and the military, they would be true to the wattage, and the Baja Design Squadron Pro’s do too.
 
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