P1000m5 How many amps can we draw continuously?

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A bit off topic, but electrical system related. I was doing my research looking at what kind of winch I want to go with. All of the usual suspects have an enormous draw at full load. I am completely aware this is not a continuous draw. But if you are in a tough spot, at the full load line speeds they report, I could see there being at least 5 minutes of winch time. With the puny batteries these have and the stated 600W alternator output, can I really only run my winch for a minute or 2 at a time at or near full load? That doesn't seem right - actually I feel a little foolish even typing it. What do folks actually running this setup have to say? Seems like I am missing something here, but I can't put my finger on it... Or is a second battery setup in my future, even with a fairly mild bundle of other accessories?
 
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A bit off topic, but electrical system related. I was doing my research looking at what kind of winch I want to go with. All of the usual suspects have an enormous draw at full load. I am completely aware this is not a continuous draw. But if you are in a tough spot, at the full load line speeds they report, I could see there being at least 5 minutes of winch time. With the puny batteries these have and the stated 600W alternator output, can I really only run my winch for a minute or 2 at a time at or near full load? That doesn't seem right - actually I feel a little foolish even typing it. What do folks actually running this setup have to say? Seems like I am missing something here, but I can't put my finger on it... Or is a second battery setup in my future, even with a fairly mild bundle of other accessories?
I think you have an excellent grasp of the situation. YES! full load amps on a 4500 lb winch will draw your battery down. Keep the vehicle running and you can run the winch twice as long. Ultimately, the dual battery set-up is the best. That way if you run the battery too low your cranking battery is still charged.
 
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I think you have an excellent grasp of the situation. YES! full load amps on a 4500 lb winch will draw your battery down. Keep the vehicle running and you can run the winch twice as long. Ultimately, the dual battery set-up is the best. That way if you run the battery too low your cranking battery is still charged.
This guy is right. I would also add that I have very rarely just winched at full load. With a machine weighing in at 1500 lbs you've got a long way to go to be at full load/amp draw.
 
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This guy is right. I would also add that I have very rarely just winched at full load. With a machine weighing in at 1500 lbs you've got a long way to go to be at full load/amp draw.
1700 something wet plus in my case at rrb, 200# gear (beverage cooler and something else.. whatever lol), 200# mud, could have 400# passengers and 200# accessories, winch, tires, bumper, lights etc... 2700#.
 
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1700 something wet plus in my case at rrb, 200# gear (beverage cooler and something else.. whatever lol), 200# mud, could have 400# passengers and 200# accessories, winch, tires, bumper, lights etc... 2700#.
Didn't even account for myself and a front passenger. Could be another 400#. 3100#
 
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I have been stuck enough in a 5,000lb truck to drive an 8,000 lb winch to a standstill. However, now that I think about it, that is probably not going to happen very often, so maybe I am overthinking this, at least to the point of having a full load on a 4,500 lb winch very often.
 
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So, on my Talon, how many amps or watts can I continuously draw to run lights, etc without draining my battery?
 
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So, on my Talon, how many amps or watts can I continuously draw to run lights, etc without draining my battery?
At the optimal RPM's.
50 for Pioneer's
58 for Talons.
Then total then the stator cant keep up.
Sorry, I don't know the optimal RPM range.
 
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Wow! That seems like a lot of amps. Thanks for the fast response!
 
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Honda service manual says the stator will put out 15.5 volts at 5000 rpm.
 
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Well... if that's where the .kw output is rated at then it needs to be recalculated.

I caculated the following off 12v's.
.6kw = 50 amps for Pioneer
.7kw = 58 amps for Talons.

If we change it to 15.5v's we get this.
.6kw = 38.7 amps for Pioneer
.7kw = 45.1 amps for Talons.
 

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