P500 inspection of frame...after accident.....

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Upon inspection..of frame
..cracked weld...found on ....
weld of lower A-arm...
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Saw a guy on facebook tore his arms off. I don't think he even hit anything other than ruts & dips. I think he mentioned in his case he thought it was work hardening due to over tightened pivot bolts. But, I am going from memory as it was last year.
 
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Saw a guy on facebook tore his arms off. I don't think he even hit anything other than ruts & dips. I think he mentioned in his case he thought it was work hardening due to over tightened pivot bolts. But, I am going from memory as it was last year.
I'm sure..my tie rod... ( drivers side )..
By lookin at boot..is bent...been
busy...this weekend will
install new axle.....weld cracked
frame...then go from there
 
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I'm sure..my tie rod... ( drivers side )..
By lookin at boot..is bent...been
busy...this weekend will
install new axle.....weld cracked
frame...then go from there
Might be worth throwing the axle back in and checking it on pavement they hold up well usually and I imagine even better being short like the 500?
Willybill and I were talking about this last week I'm sorry to hear the bad news. Hopefully quick fix!
 
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Might be worth throwing the axle back in and checking it on pavement they hold up well usually and I imagine even better being short like the 500?
Willybill and I were talking about this last week I'm sorry to hear the bad news. Hopefully quick fix!
Put new axle in....
left front tire...still jacked to the left..
while right wheel straight
took boot off tie rod...nothing seems
bent..or broken...just ordered
ball joints....any ideas... where else
I should look...
 
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Might be worth throwing the axle back in and checking it on pavement they hold up well usually and I imagine even better being short like the 500?
Willybill and I were talking about this last week I'm sorry to hear the bad news. Hopefully quick fix!
All parts..I replace...going from 10mm
...to 12mm..big difference on the axles..
& I'm not a gear head....of no kind..
any tips suggestions. .welcomed
....& appreciated...
 
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Put new axle in....
left front tire...still jacked to the left..
while right wheel straight
took boot off tie rod...nothing seems
bent..or broken...just ordered
ball joints....any ideas... where else
I should look...
When you say jacked to the left, how badly? Is it obviously out, or does it just "look" out...because eyeballing it can be tough unless its obviously really out.

Easiest way to check the inner tie rod end for bendage is to loosen the outer tie rod lock nut and rotate it a turn back and forth. Any runout (wobble) will give you the answer.

I hate stuff like this...where obviously, something is wrong, yet nothing can be found. I had the same problem on a Rubicon (long story) and the dealer just reset the toe. That just band-aiding something else thats bent. Any paint flaking anywhere? Thats usually a sign of bending.
 
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Put new axle in....
left front tire...still jacked to the left..
while right wheel straight
took boot off tie rod...nothing seems
bent..or broken...just ordered
ball joints....any ideas... where else
I should look...
Where the ball joints lose? Did you aline it? And check tie rod?
 
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When you say jacked to the left, how badly? Is it obviously out, or does it just "look" out...because eyeballing it can be tough unless its obviously really out.

Easiest way to check the inner tie rod end for bendage is to loosen the outer tie rod lock nut and rotate it a turn back and forth. Any runout (wobble) will give you the answer.

I hate stuff like this...where obviously, something is wrong, yet nothing can be found. I had the same problem on a Rubicon (long story) and the dealer just reset the toe. That just band-aiding something else thats bent. Any paint flaking anywhere? Thats usually a sign of bending.
Mine wobble, but are within limits after adjustments.
 
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Mine wobble, but are within limits after adjustments.
What do you mean by "within limits"? Most of them have a tiny bit of runout (they aren't pushrods, after all)...but they shouldn't look like a jump rope.
 
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Put new axle in....
left front tire...still jacked to the left..
while right wheel straight
took boot off tie rod...nothing seems
bent..or broken...just ordered
ball joints....any ideas... where else
I should look...
Are the threads to the ball joint ends the same?
Like said do alignment but maybe the rack got jacked up and skipped some teeth
 
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When you say jacked to the left, how badly? Is it obviously out, or does it just "look" out...because eyeballing it can be tough unless its obviously really out.

Easiest way to check the inner tie rod end for bendage is to loosen the outer tie rod lock nut and rotate it a turn back and forth. Any runout (wobble) will give you the answer.

I hate stuff like this...where obviously, something is wrong, yet nothing can be found. I had the same problem on a Rubicon (long story) and the dealer just reset the toe. That just band-aiding something else thats bent. Any paint flaking anywhere? Thats usually a sign of bending.
Jacked as in...right tire Straight
steering wheel...proper place
left wheel...all the way...to the left
just the weld Crack on lower rear
...shock mount..
ball joints next...upgrade to
12mm...from 10mm (stock)...
Your gonna laugh..I'm doin that...
so if it....doesn't fix the ...problem
..least I got something out of it..
 
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Are the threads to the ball joint ends the same?
Like said do alignment but maybe the rack got jacked up and skipped some teeth
I took boot off..both ends..of tie rod..going into
..steering rack..looked fine..it's cast metal...which ain't
Strong....mounting bolts tight..wheel turns fine..
...skip a couple teeth..inside steering rack...ummmm
there's a used one..for $190..
Ummmmmm
 
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Where the ball joints lose? Did you aline it? And check tie rod?
Yes..ball joints lose..
alignment. ..is done..after repair
....have not repaired.. new axle..
did not..fix anything..
 
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Are the threads to the ball joint ends the same?
Like said do alignment but maybe the rack got jacked up and skipped some teeth
Tried running the tie rod...out
to see..it's like the tie rod
shrunk.... plus top off tire pushed...out
...bottom of tire...kicked in..
Is the skipped teeth..an easy fix
...or replace. .with used...
 
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Tried running the tie rod...out
to see..it's like the tie rod
shrunk.... plus top off tire pushed...out
...bottom of tire...kicked in..
Is the skipped teeth..an easy fix
...or replace. .with used...
Is...just...me or are... these posts...hard...to understand...with...all the... dot dot dots

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Tried running the tie rod...out
to see..it's like the tie rod
shrunk.... plus top off tire pushed...out
...bottom of tire...kicked in..
Is the skipped teeth..an easy fix
...or replace. .with used...
Turn lock to lock and check to make sure same amount of steering arm on each side of the rack.
But if tire sits funny top to bottom it's in the arm or mount. Do you have any pictures?
 
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Is...just...me or are... these posts...hard...to understand...with...all the... dot dot dots

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it helps...or hit ignore. ..& never see um...
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