KWT particle separator mounting

[Elkhunter]

Im going to purchase a kwt prefilter for my Talon X. I have the tractor supply box and super atv rear window. I need to know what mount size to order and best mounting location so not to interfere with these things. Has anyone mounted one with a rear window and box?


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[Neohio]

Im going to purchase a kwt prefilter for my Talon X. I have the tractor supply box and super atv rear window. I need to know what mount size to order and best mounting location so not to interfere with these things. Has anyone mounted one with a rear window and box?


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Have you looked into the 10-80 filter setup? @highpocket74

He posted a similar picture to this, side by side. And well, his "with" filter appeared much cleaner than the KWT.

Just a thought. You may have other reasons for the KWT.

 

[Many_Gs]

I have a KWT and love it, also a tractor supply box. Though, I don't have a rear windshield, I know it can be done especially if it's a new mount and you can choose the location.

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[Elkhunter]

Have you looked into the 10-80 filter setup? @highpocket74
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He posted a similar picture to this, side by side. And well, his "with" filter appeared much cleaner than the KWT.

Just a thought. You may have other reasons for the KWT.

This is another option I’m thinking about. I actually already have a 3” filter just have to get a outerwhere cover for it.
My concern is we ride in dusty desert conditions and with the rear window the dust seems to swirl around behind the window a lot and I am afraid of it getting plugged up. With the kwt I can empty the tray and be on my way.


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[Neohio]

I just remember his "with" filter was much cleaner than the one shown.

Found the images.
Screenshot from his website.

Talon Intake Pre-filter Tube | 10-80 Dirt Sports

This is the intake tube only component of our Honda Talon intake pre-filter kit. **Patent Pending** Our Talon Intake Pre-filter Kit is made of 3 components sold separately for available options and inventory control. Below are links to purchase the other components to build a full kit...

www.10-80dirtsports.com

 

[highpocket74]

I should be getting some more pictures soon after our Texas ride last weekend. It was DUSTY!! I had to run the front as navigator on this trip but by friend Micah was running about 5th or 6th out of 12 bikes. I'm interested in seeing his stock filter conditions while running the pre-filter. We won't have a "with and without" comparison because all 3 Talons were running my pre-filter setup. The third Talon was running in 12th position so I really need pics of that filter, which is think is an R2C. The pre-filters looked fine after the ride. Not even close to being caked up with dust. One benefit of running a dry filter is that a lot of dirt falls off during riding. It doesn't stick like an oiled filter.

I've sold a few of these to guys from Arizona where they tell me 150 miles out of an OEM air filter is great. I"m sure after a few rides they will be posting, good or bad, about my pre-filter. With 44 sold so far, I've yet to hear any complaints about poor results. A large reason for success is simply getting cleaner air from ABOVE the fender in the first place.

 

[PaulF]

This is another option I’m thinking about. I actually already have a 3” filter just have to get a outerwhere cover for it. View attachment 327354
My concern is we ride in dusty desert conditions and with the rear window the dust seems to swirl around behind the window a lot and I am afraid of it getting plugged up. With the kwt I can empty the tray and be on my way.


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Everything is a give and take.

The KWT is easy to clean but, it costs more, doesn't do as good of a job so you will still be replacing OEM filters, can get in the way and I personally think it is ugly.

A prefilter is cheaper, works better (Hondabob has 30K+ miles on his OEM filter) and looks better but is a little more work to maintain.

I built a BVC prefilter knockoff (the one hidden inside the fender) and keep a spare clean filter and outerwear in my trailer for an easy 5 minute swap. Even though it is located in the fender (where the stock snorkel is) I am surprised that it has lasted 500 miles without cleaning so far and 250 of those miles were in Arizona, Nevada and Utah dust. I think it may go up to 1,000 miles between cleanings.

This is coming from someone that used to swear by a particle separator. Although they do work very well, the S&B was always in my line of sight and even it was somewhat ugly to me.

 

[highpocket74]

Similar to what PaulF said, if you ride in heavy dust you'll have to clean something. Separators work but are huge and quite ugly. They also require air velocity to work so if you're normal riding is low RPM they will not work very efficiently. Some of my early experiments were with tractor style spinning separators. They worked but only in the upper half of the RPM range. If you run WFO all the time like a tractor then that would work. For normal trail riding it would not.

My pre-filter setup is much smaller than particle separators and almost unnoticeable on the fender. I'd rather undo the one hose clamp to shake the dirt of the pre-filter than go through the hassle of checking and changing the main filter. In the end simple and easy is better.

 

[Elkhunter]

I should be getting some more pictures soon after our Texas ride last weekend. It was DUSTY!! I had to run the front as navigator on this trip but by friend Micah was running about 5th or 6th out of 12 bikes. I'm interested in seeing his stock filter conditions while running the pre-filter. We won't have a "with and without" comparison because all 3 Talons were running my pre-filter setup. The third Talon was running in 12th position so I really need pics of that filter, which is think is an R2C. The pre-filters looked fine after the ride. Not even close to being caked up with dust. One benefit of running a dry filter is that a lot of dirt falls off during riding. It doesn't stick like an oiled filter.

I've sold a few of these to guys from Arizona where they tell me 150 miles out of an OEM air filter is great. I"m sure after a few rides they will be posting, good or bad, about my pre-filter. With 44 sold so far, I've yet to hear any complaints about poor results. A large reason for success is simply getting cleaner air from ABOVE the fender in the first place.

Will be watching for the pics and reviews. Maybe I missed this somewhere but is there a club discount from your store? Looking at just the prefilter tube.

 

[highpocket74]

New Talon Pre-filter Snorkel

Ok gents, finally got one all together and powder coated. These things are not easy to build! The one you see in the pic was made for a 4 seater but fit on a 2 seater. The filter would be about 3” lower with the 2 seater tube. I’m not running production on these yet. This 4 seat version...

hondasxs.com

I don't have a discount code for these because the sell out every time I build a batch to sell. Besides I'm not adding some ridiculous mark-ups for my products. I try to price reasonable for a little profit to be able to continue.