Low range grinding and popping out of gear

[blainef1977]

I have a 2016 1000M3 and grinds going into low range and as soon as there is any small incline it grinds and pops into a neutral then catches then grinds and pops out again. Is there a trans overhaul kit available with gears and small parts to rebuild

 

[ODAMO]

I have a 2016 1000M3 and grinds going into low range and as soon as there is any small incline it grinds and pops into a neutral then catches then grinds and pops out again. Is there a trans overhaul kit available with gears and small parts to rebuild

Not sure what parts exactly were changed on the 22 but they were changed to eliminate that problem. Maybe someone here knows what parts to replace to update your trans If its possible.

 

[Remington]

Welcome from Michigan

You have a 16' at least that's what u say anyway. With no pics we can only assume!
Pics Or It Didn't Happen!

16-17 had a clutch update, was yours done? Might want to do it if your gonna take it apart. Try the search up top
"Threadloom" results to go deep into the bowls of the forum as well

 

[ODAMO]

Welcome from Michigan

You have a 16' at least that's what u say anyway. With no pics we can only assume!
Pics Or It Didn't Happen!

16-17 had a clutch update, was yours done? Might want to do it if your gonna take it apart. Try the search up top
"Threadloom" results to go deep into the bowls of the forum as well

His problem sounds like its in the sub trans. Something was changed in the shift fork or shift drum to eliminate the grinding and wear that causes it to pop out of gear

 

[CID]

@P1K5Dave to the white courtesy phone please. 😎

 

[Remington]

His problem sounds like its in the sub trans. Something was changed in the shift fork or shift drum to eliminate the grinding and wear that causes it to pop out of gear

Yup very true, but he's new and it is a 16'

 

[blainef1977]

My plan is to drop the the skid plates and start on it this weekend I was just wondering if there was a recall or sum kind of trans kit to fix the issue. I need to get moving on it to het it fixed for a good friend who is a disabled veteran I let use the machine for hunting on my property.

 

[blainef1977]

I’ll get some pics posted this weekend

 

[JenElio]

Just to get it out there......have you tried adjusting the cables?

 

[blainef1977]

Yes cable adjusted at the dealer they said it’s definitely internal with a price tag of anywhere from $2k to $3k depending on what they find.

 

[DRZRon1]

can u run high gear to get thru deer wacking season?

 

[hondabob]

I rebuilt the sub trans on my Pioneer 1000. I changed the high range gears even though the gear dogs looked ok. My low range gear dogs were rounded off causing it to not stay in low range. The new 2022 shift star on the shift drum is improved. It has deeper detents and it looks like it provides more gear dog engagement for low range and reverse. Be sure to take pictures as you take it apart. The shop manual may still say to assemble it in park which is imposable. You take it apart and reassemble it in neutral.

 

[Adam490]

A number of us have done the repair. Go ahead and get the updated ‘22 parts if you can find them. Linked the post in my build thread from when I did mine. The updated shift star and drum weren’t out yet when I did mine.

Post in thread 'Adam490's Short Bus'
P1000m5 - Adam490's Short Bus

 

[P1K5Dave]

My thread sub-transmission service will be a good thing for you to read through first.

P1000 - Sub-Transmission Service

I replaced my reverse and low gears in the sub-transmission this week. It was my first time going through the sub-trans, but I learned a lot that is useful to pass on to anyone getting into this. The first part of this is a guide to removing the sub-trans. You may need to get into it for...

hondasxs.com

 

[blainef1977]

can u run high gear to get thru deer wacking season?

We may have to if I run into an availability issue with parts I really want to put the most up to date parts back in it

 

[906UP]

We may have to if I run into an availability issue with parts I really want to put the most up to date parts back in it

Getting any parts right now is the problem. I'd suspect you'll ne a couple months waiting on them regardless.

 

[Rojo]

I’m having similar problems with a 2016 Pioneer 1000 that we bought new. My has had the clutch upgrade done to it already. A few months ago and just under 20,000 it quit driving. We were busy in our shop so I had someone take it to the little Mom & Pop Honda dealer and they replaced the shift motor. It worked great for a couple of months. Now with 20,100+ miles it grinds when you go to reverse and it doesn’t back up. The Honda dealer got shut down since last time. I’m not afraid to work on it now that I have a little time. I would just like some pointers as to what might be wrong and where to start. Thanks

 

[CID]

I’m having similar problems with a 2016 Pioneer 1000 that we bought new. My has had the clutch upgrade done to it already. A few months ago and just under 20,000 it quit driving. We were busy in our shop so I had someone take it to the little Mom & Pop Honda dealer and they replaced the shift motor. It worked great for a couple of months. Now with 20,100+ miles it grinds when you go to reverse and it doesn’t back up. The Honda dealer got shut down since last time. I’m not afraid to work on it now that I have a little time. I would just like some pointers as to what might be wrong and where to start. Thanks

@P1K5Dave did an awesome how-to on his sub trans rebuild.

P1000 - Sub-Transmission Service

I replaced my reverse and low gears in the sub-transmission this week. It was my first time going through the sub-trans, but I learned a lot that is useful to pass on to anyone getting into this. The first part of this is a guide to removing the sub-trans. You may need to get into it for...

hondasxs.com

 

[Bighat]

I’m having similar problems with a 2016 Pioneer 1000 that we bought new. My has had the clutch upgrade done to it already. A few months ago and just under 20,000 it quit driving. We were busy in our shop so I had someone take it to the little Mom & Pop Honda dealer and they replaced the shift motor. It worked great for a couple of months. Now with 20,100+ miles it grinds when you go to reverse and it doesn’t back up. The Honda dealer got shut down since last time. I’m not afraid to work on it now that I have a little time. I would just like some pointers as to what might be wrong and where to start. Thanks

Your's sounds like it could just need adjusted. May not be engaging all the way.

 

[Rojo]

Your's sounds like it could just need adjusted. May not be engaging all the way.

Are you thinking just adjusting the shift cable or something more with the shift motor?