I took the family on our P1K-5 and my Rincon to Mill Creek at the end of May. We found it to be too rough to our liking and the main pipeline easement access trail to the north has been blocked so there is a lot of state highway riding to get to the red and blue loop trail heads now. Also have read as I recall the Red loop has been closed. As Smitty has stated, it was probably a lot better when there was dirt between the rocks and the bottoms weren't giant rig swallowing mudholes. We like the area and are now wanting to get some current info on the trails around Mack's Pines for a fall run. Are they still decent or have they been chewed up?