P500 OK, so the P5 is tippy...

[PNWGuy]

I now know why people flop these things.

My brother and I were riding in my P5 this week while at the cabin and one of the trails we took it down had some extremely deep ruts.

Picture doesn't capture the giant kelly hump and 3' deep ruts, really. Riding the edge when the back left tire slipped into the rut and it immediately flopped on it's side. No pics of it on it's side as we immediately got out and righted it.

Decided to just winch it out of the rut. Haven't noticed any damage.

With two nearly 300lb men in it plus some gear, we really pushed that poor little thing, but, it was great.

We came up a trail that was about a 45 degree angle and was so steep and rutted that we both were sticking our bodies over the hood to keep the front tires down. Very, very sketchy trail. The P5 was pushed to it's limits and was awesome.

Rode about 24 miles exploring the Idaho back country above Dworshak reservoir. Found some awesome blackberry bushes and had a great afternoon.

 

[trigger]

I now know why people flop these things.

Because they put on taller tires and no spacers?

 

[PNWGuy]

Because they put on taller tires and no spacers?

Spacers would not have helped in that situation. Maybe if they were 12" spacers...

 

[TeamCheap]

yeah pictures and video never really convey just how steep or deep or just plain gnarly the terrain is.

That's why I'm working on an anti-tip-over air bag system with on board air compressor and automatic bag retraction, it will be set to deploy when the P5 leans more than 7.83 degree's from vertical.The bags will deploy from the 4" rocker panel rock guard tubes.Can also be used for mud deeper than 6", you know just like having water-wings. LOL

 

[100Acre]

above Dworshak reservoir

I love it up there. Coming down the back way from Elk River, I saw this little M100 fire trailer, there at the Army Corps of Engineers CG at the boat entrance on the north side of the lake. The M100's date back to WW2 and were typically towed by Jeeps.
Dent Acres rings a bell...I've also been up and over on the Pierce and Weippe side. Beautiful country. I'll be out there soon. Let's hit some trails!

 

[Montecresto]

I now know why people flop these things.

My brother and I were riding in my P5 this week while at the cabin and one of the trails we took it down had some extremely deep ruts.

Picture doesn't capture the giant kelly hump and 3' deep ruts, really. Riding the edge when the back left tire slipped into the rut and it immediately flopped on it's side. No pics of it on it's side as we immediately got out and righted it.

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Decided to just winch it out of the rut. Haven't noticed any damage.

With two nearly 300lb men in it plus some gear, we really pushed that poor little thing, but, it was great.

We came up a trail that was about a 45 degree angle and was so steep and rutted that we both were sticking our bodies over the hood to keep the front tires down. Very, very sketchy trail. The P5 was pushed to it's limits and was awesome.

Rode about 24 miles exploring the Idaho back country above Dworshak reservoir. Found some awesome blackberry bushes and had a great afternoon.

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Those don’t look like blueberry bushes. Nice pics though!!

 

[Russ989]

I think you would be surprised what some spacers would do, sure as cuss can’t hurt your situation.

 

[HP5NC]

I love it up there. Coming down the back way from Elk River, I saw this little M100 fire trailer, there at the Army Corps of Engineers CG at the boat entrance on the north side of the lake. The M100's date back to WW2 and were typically towed by Jeeps.
Dent Acres rings a bell...I've also been up and over on the Pierce and Weippe side. Beautiful country. I'll be out there soon. Let's hit some trails!

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Awesome pictures!!! Breath taking. My dad always said if I ever went west past the Mississippi I’d never want to come back to North Caroline. He went to Jacksonhole Wyoming back in the early 90’s on a hunt. Got lots of video on the trip out. Mile an miles and mile of wheat fields an two lane highways through Kansas and same with corn in Nebraska until reaching the Rockies. Some day I’m gonna make it out there! No need to travel to the world when North America offers SO much beautiful country and wildlife.

 

[Montecresto]

Awesome pictures!!! Breath taking. My dad always said if I ever went west past the Mississippi I’d never want to come back to North Caroline. He went to Jacksonhole Wyoming back in the early 90’s on a hunt. Got lots of video on the trip out. Mile an miles and mile of wheat fields an two lane highways through Kansas and same with corn in Nebraska until reaching the Rockies. Some day I’m gonna make it out there! No need to travel to the world when North America offers SO much beautiful country and wildlife.

The mountainmen named that protected valley for their first (annual) rendezvous, just over the Tetons on the Idaho side is Pierr’s Hole, another mountain man rendezvous cite. I first found Jackson Hole in 82’ and have returned 26 times, I found it so alluring, and as a bonus it’s just 30 miles or so from the south entrance of Yellowstone. Put it on your bucket list for sure.

 

[HP5NC]

The mountainmen named that protected valley for their first (annual) rendezvous, just over the Tetons on the Idaho side is Pierr’s Hole, another mountain man rendezvous cite. I first found Jackson Hole in 82’ and have returned 26 times, I found it so alluring, and as a bonus it’s just 30 miles or so from the south entrance of Yellowstone. Put it on your bucket list for sure.

That’s really cool man! It’s definitely on my list! My dad said it was the most ery feeling driving through Kansas and Nebraska. NOTHING around you for days it seemed but crops an two lane roads! Corn so tall way taller than the vehicle. Better not run out of gas lol

 

[CumminsPusher]

@100Acre knows all about tippy, I think it was like three times on one trail lol. Fairly viscous crossover ruts though. Had take Bayleaf the Pup in the larger rig a couple times but he’d go down that trail again. @Tigermark and I easily righted it back up and it continued on, a very nice thing about a 500
On that trail even the 1000’s have been on the side occasionally and usually crawl back upright but when they don’t it’s a pita.

 

[trigger]

@100Acre knows all about tippy, I think it was like three times on one trail lol.

Yeah, following the pics coming in he seems to spend a lot of time on his side, lol! I know he went over a couple of times at the takeover too. We ran Jackal's gauntlet together at RRB and he's definitely carrying a large pair to even try some of the stuff we went through. He's good people.

 

[CumminsPusher]

Yeah, following the pics coming in he seems to spend a lot of time on his side, lol! I know he went over a couple of times at the takeover too. We ran Jackal's gauntlet together at RRB and he's definitely carrying a large pair to even try some of the stuff we went through. He's good people.

Lol. Have to be careful where you take him into because he WILL follow. Good people no doubt. Needs spacers and Wolverine wheels to help but he definitely has a “higher center of gravity “ then most!

 

[100Acre]

So far I’ve been on my side seven or eight times now

 

[trigger]

Lol. Have to be careful where you take him into because he WILL follow. Good people no doubt. Needs spacers and Wolverine wheels to help but he definitely has a “higher center of gravity “ then most!

So far I’ve been on my side seven or eight times now

You definitely need to do something to spread that stance out a bit. What's funny is you and i talked about it but you evidently didn't do anything before this trip? Eight times is way too many! I know you've logged a lot more miles than i have but I've only tipped once.

 

[Timmy]

You definitely need to do something to spread that stance out a bit. What's funny is you and i talked about it but you evidently didn't do anything before this trip? Eight times is way too many! I know you've logged a lot more miles than i have but I've only tipped once.

I guess I have been lucky. Been close a few times to rolling over. Around 3,000 miles now, I never even been pulled out by any other atv. LOL

 

[Timmy]

I love it up there. Coming down the back way from Elk River, I saw this little M100 fire trailer, there at the Army Corps of Engineers CG at the boat entrance on the north side of the lake. The M100's date back to WW2 and were typically towed by Jeeps.
Dent Acres rings a bell...I've also been up and over on the Pierce and Weippe side. Beautiful country. I'll be out there soon. Let's hit some trails!

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We have an Elk River in West Virginia also. LOL

 

[CumminsPusher]

You definitely need to do something to spread that stance out a bit. What's funny is you and i talked about it but you evidently didn't do anything before this trip? Eight times is way too many! I know you've logged a lot more miles than i have but I've only tipped once.

To be fair that area up here is made up of unmaintained motorcycle trails and bushwhacking for the most part. Things are extremely tight,side angled and avoiding the cross ruts is extremely tough given the trail width with overlaying branches at face level. It’s a fun but very challenging area to ride. It’s not like RRB where you can drive a Jeep through with multiple options even. Every 500 that’s been out here has been on its side multiple times. Even my wife that has ridden dirt bikes and sxs’ half of her life in the area has been on her side a couple times. She giggles every time lol. Most of the areas it is safe to tip though because of the trees being so close.
Now with that said I’ve seen the difference the wider Wolverine wheels did for @WillyBill. Still very tippy but seems to give a little more time to make corrections before it goes over.

 

[Mudder]

So far I’ve been on my side seven or eight times now

Its really Bayleaf edging him on to try to ruff ruff stuff.

 

[DG Rider]

To be fair that area up here is made up of unmaintained motorcycle trails and bushwhacking for the most part. Things are extremely tight,side angled and avoiding the cross ruts is extremely tough given the trail width with overlaying branches at face level. It’s a fun but very challenging area to ride. It’s not like RRB where you can drive a Jeep through with multiple options even. Every 500 that’s been out here has been on its side multiple times. Even my wife that has ridden dirt bikes and sxs’ half of her life in the area has been on her side a couple times. She giggles every time lol. Most of the areas it is safe to tip though because of the trees being so close.
Now with that said I’ve seen the difference the wider Wolverine wheels did for @WillyBill. Still very tippy but seems to give a little more time to make corrections before it goes over.

I've seen Wolvy wheels mentioned a few times now. Are they really wider or just more offset?
I drove the 700 through all kinds of crazy stuff, but the 500 seems really spooky at times and really needs some added width . I think it feels way worse than it actually is, but...