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P1000 P1000 LE or Wolverine R Spec EPS SE

Discussion in 'General Pioneer 1000 Discussion' started by JM10614, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. JTW

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    The 2018 model year.. supposed to be around mid October... now with all that said. I'd have to see what that new wolverine was going to be offering. Particularly if you don't need or want the Honda 5!
     
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    You can run the 3 seater roof even without removing the rear ROPS. It's pretty easy to notch it so it fits over the ROPS.
     
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    The mechanic at our shop was very unimpressed when he had to do a clutch replacement. He felt if was a pile of crap design, and he's been into alot of different' clutches over the years. So it's maybe more than a QC problem, probably leans a little more to a design problem.
     
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    I'm not a big fan of how the cage is shaped on the 5 seater, especially over and around the sides of the bed. I know it has to be shaped that way for proper protection I'm just not crazy about it.
     
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    Here's some pics from a charity ride we did in Wolfe County Ky last year.

    https://goo.gl/photos/V54hJyTWrX9YvVgY7
     
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    I totally agree with that. I've replaced more clutches than I could possibly count on street bikes and atvs. The p1k is way too complicated to be in an off-road vehicle. Nowhere near big enough and not enough plates. If it was a little beefier and mechanically actuated with a centrifugal or torque converter on the crank, the p1k would be as close to perfect as I would want it. That being said I got nothing but praise for how mines handled the abuse I've put it through.
     
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    On a side note, it's nothing compared to the John Deere 650 buck atv I worked on. The inner hub was broken in pieces. Cause it was plastic lol. Seriously, plastic. CanAm makes those and did a ridiculous job of it.
     
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    I believe chamfered is the key, may have been a step missed during assembly.
     
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    Ive never ride in ky but I'm down for it. I'll check out those vids.
     
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    Man that was a super fun day. We need to do that again.
     
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    Are you saying Honda engineers are dumb a*****, I will agree!
     
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    Honda engineers may have got it figured out from the start put faulty clutches in and we wouldn't gripe about the heat, because we couldn't ride them due to the clutches being out!
     
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    I hope Honda is watching this forum, because, if they don't take care of their customers, I'll be buying another brand next time!
     
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    Lol. That's why the engineers get paid the big bucks.
     
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    Didn't know that. Honda should put that in their literature. The only reason I didn't buy a 5 is because I couldn't get past their frumpy styling. They look like an elephant raping a cat.
     
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    No they are plenty smart. I think they tried to impress people and flex their technical muscles by installing a complicated system in their sxs. When tried and true would have been ideal. Honda has sucked at 3 specific designs. Mechanical camchain tensioners, hydraulic camchain tensioners (cbr1000f), and stators (mid 70s-early 90s street bikes. 84 Goldwing particularly). It's possible the dct might be a 4th.
     
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    But I still LOVE my p1k and plan on keeping it for many years to come.
     
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    You really know your Hondas sir. Kudos to you!
     
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    4th would be the Odyssey trans. Missed that one badly.
    I'm old. I remember when Honda's slogan was "Honda...we make it simple." Highly refined simple machinery. Beautiful.
     
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    Sorry no experience with the Odyssey but wanted one really bad. I've worked on a bunch of things but tried to avoid off-road stuff when possible. And weedeaters. I drag raced a cbr1000f and then a cbr900rr for close to 20 years. The 900 had a small clutch (diameter wise) but was one of the strongest ever made. Factory plates would last me half a season and that's saying something. 1.40ish 60' times aren't easy, especially on clutches.
     
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