P1000 P1K Ended Up on Its Roof

[Troutspanker]

On a fishing trip and slid off a narrow trail down a steep embankment, landed on roof. Was so steep that the passenger side barely hit the ground....it was essentially about a 12' drop onto the roof. Were able to get it tipped over and drove it back to camp. I was able to check all the fluids; added a bit of oil to the transmission and topped off the front and rear differentials, as some had leaked out of the vent lines in the 5 minutes or so it was on its roof. Drove it the rest of trip, but rear suspension seemed a little soft - wanted to roll on corners.

Damage:
Roll cage was pushed back and tweaked toward the drivers side, cross bar with head rests snapped their welds by the middle of the box, passenger side shock seems damaged. The rear passenger side A-arm now sits about 1/4" lower than the drivers side. I'm not sure if the arm itself bent or the frame was tweaked? Insurance adjuster, based only on pictures, thinks it's fixable and wants me to take it into a Honda dealer to get looked over. My question is, do most Honda ATV/UTV dealers have in-house folks that can judge/straighten a bent frame? Any advice on making sure nothing gets over-looked and becomes a problem down the road would be greatly appreciated. 2021 with only 751 miles on it.

 

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[Smitty335]

On a fishing trip and slid off a narrow trail down a steep embankment, landed on roof. Was so steep that the passenger side barely hit the ground....it was essentially about a 12' drop onto the roof. Were able to get it tipped over and drove it back to camp. I was able to check all the fluids; added a bit of oil to the transmission and topped off the front and rear differentials, as some had leaked out of the vent lines in the 5 minutes or so it was on its roof. Drove it the rest of trip, but rear suspension seemed a little soft - wanted to roll on corners.

Damage:
Roll cage was pushed back and tweaked toward the drivers side, cross bar with head rests snapped their welds by the middle of the box, passenger side shock seems damaged. The rear passenger side A-arm now sits about 1/4" lower than the drivers side. I'm not sure if the arm itself bent or the frame was tweaked? Insurance adjuster, based only on pictures, thinks it's fixable and wants me to take it into a Honda dealer to get looked over. My question is, do most Honda ATV/UTV dealers have in-house folks that can judge/straighten a bent frame? Any advice on making sure nothing gets over-looked and becomes a problem down the road would be greatly appreciated. 2021 with only 751 miles on it.
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View attachment 346767, apply the funds towards real shocks

If they give you money to replace to replace the shocks, don't, apply the funds towards real shocks. Glad your OK!

 

[P1K5Dave]

If your frame is determined to be damaged in any way, the insurance company is going to total it.

At least that's what we've seen from anyone with a damaged frame here.

 

[Michiganboy]

I know someone sells after market top frames for these pioneer 1000’s.

 

[Red500]

Glad no one was hurt. Hopefully that get you back going before too long.

 

[P1K5Dave]

I know someone sells after market top frames for these pioneer 1000’s.

You mean roll cages? Do tell...I'd like to see what they're making.

 

[Remington]

I know someone sells after market top frames for these pioneer 1000’s.

There called the ROPS..

Cant say that without posting a link!

 

[Michiganboy]

There called the ROPS..

Cant say that without posting a link!

Brick City Fab

^ this company makes them.

^ video of one

 

[Rayger143]

Looks like they’re custom only and nothing available but they have other stuff that might interest a few members. Thanks for posting.

 

[Rayger143]

If your frame is determined to be damaged in any way, the insurance company is going to total it.

At least that's what we've seen from anyone with a damaged frame here.

You’re probably right but it can be fixed with new parts. Mine looked worse and I fixed it. Had no choice.

 

[LarryAmboy]

A lot of us here already have their products. Looks like a ROPS modification not a whole new frame or cage. Call the owner of BCF and ask. His name is Moses.


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[Adam490]

If your frame is determined to be damaged in any way, the insurance company is going to total it.

At least that's what we've seen from anyone with a damaged frame here.

That was true back when you could buy a new one for $16k OTD. They don’t total them anymore for the frame damage. My 2018 with just shy of 3k miles booked for $23k when the adjuster came to look at it for the cage and frame tab…. I know they didn’t come close to totaling out @TripleB rig for it either.

 

[Remington]

Brick City Fab

^ this company makes them.

^ video of one

I wouldnt get one from them. PM me and Ill have that conversation. Its worth the effort 😉
not here.

 

[P1K5Dave]

That was true back when you could buy a new one for $16k OTD. They don’t total them anymore for the frame damage. My 2018 with just shy of 3k miles booked for $23k when the adjuster came to look at it for the cage and frame tab…. I know they didn’t come close to totaling out @TripleB rig for it either.

Thanks for the perspective, I don't recall either of your stories and your experience with insurance.

So guys have torn their front tabs out and insurance fixed it? Did they pay for welding repair, or frame replacement?

It seems everyone I've seen with front tab tears gets totaled, and I'm talking recent (not the old days.)

 

[P1K5Dave]

FTR, I tore the $hite out of my front right tabs, and had them straightened and welded to better than before, no insurance involved.

 

[RB3offroad]

I dont believe Brick City works on Pioneers anymore. I was their last roll cage for a Talon. But it doesnt hurt to call Moses

 

[Adam490]

Thanks for the perspective, I don't recall either of your stories and your experience with insurance.

So guys have torn their front tabs out and insurance fixed it? Did they pay for welding repair, or frame replacement?

It seems everyone I've seen with front tab tears gets totaled, and I'm talking recent (not the old days.)

Yep, frame replacement. It's cheaper for them to do a complete frame replacement than total it now. Pretty crazy.

 

[denone]

I tore my front tab in April on my 2018 and Progressive would not allow a frame replacement. I forgot to follow the auction for mine on Copart and can‘t find what it sold for now.

 

[Adam490]

I tore my front tab in April on my 2018 and Progressive would not allow a frame replacement. I forgot to follow the auction for mine on Copart and can‘t find what it sold for now.

Guess it depends on the state and the adjuster. In LA, they have to total it if damages reach 75% of the value of the machine. Anything else is up to the adjuster I guess.

 

[TripleB]

I tore my front tab in April on my 2018 and Progressive would not allow a frame replacement. I forgot to follow the auction for mine on Copart and can‘t find what it sold for now.

How much did they give you for it?