P1K5Dave
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Edit 6/25/21 - I was originally going with the C-fab arms. I changed direction to the Texas Tough Customs kit.
Edit 7/24/21 - Removed 814 Trail Series and replaced with Fox QS3s.
just decided to blow a wad of money to upgrade my suspension. The parts are on order, and both companies are saying 3-4 weeks lead time...
But I'm starting the thread now because I'm geeked about this and I can't wait to see how much it changes my Pioneer.
As it stands, this machine rides like a brick, and I have a lot of tire scrubbing when turning.
The current setup:
Highlifter front forward A-arms
Highlifter bracket lift (2.5")
30" Maxxis Liberties
1.5" RBE spacers on front wheels
2" RBE spacers on rear wheels
Stock shocks
Mudbuster XL mud guards
Bad Dawg front bumper
I bought it used with the bracket lift, A-arms, and 30s. I added the mud guards, spacers, and front bumper. I mention them because these additions made scrubbing worse. We'll see how they work with the new setup.
But like I said, it rides like a brick. I've been reading about the improvements people are getting with shock upgrades. Then I learned that you shouldn't run the 814 Shocks with a bracket lift because you lose shock travel and no height will be gained.
Even more importantly, I've read that bracket lifts stiffen your ride by messing with your geometry. I'm generally opposed to a body lift vs. a full suspension treatment in the first place...
So I figure I'm likely riding even rougher than stock, though I've never ridden in a stock Pioneer.
I'll get some "before" measurements and pics up here soon to document where I'm at, then when I get my stuff I'll make it a build thread, and have some follow-up pics, measurements, and observations.
Let's UPGRADE!
Edit 7/24/21 - Removed 814 Trail Series and replaced with Fox QS3s.
just decided to blow a wad of money to upgrade my suspension. The parts are on order, and both companies are saying 3-4 weeks lead time...
But I'm starting the thread now because I'm geeked about this and I can't wait to see how much it changes my Pioneer.
As it stands, this machine rides like a brick, and I have a lot of tire scrubbing when turning.
The current setup:
Highlifter front forward A-arms
Highlifter bracket lift (2.5")
30" Maxxis Liberties
1.5" RBE spacers on front wheels
2" RBE spacers on rear wheels
Stock shocks
Mudbuster XL mud guards
Bad Dawg front bumper
I bought it used with the bracket lift, A-arms, and 30s. I added the mud guards, spacers, and front bumper. I mention them because these additions made scrubbing worse. We'll see how they work with the new setup.
But like I said, it rides like a brick. I've been reading about the improvements people are getting with shock upgrades. Then I learned that you shouldn't run the 814 Shocks with a bracket lift because you lose shock travel and no height will be gained.
Even more importantly, I've read that bracket lifts stiffen your ride by messing with your geometry. I'm generally opposed to a body lift vs. a full suspension treatment in the first place...
So I figure I'm likely riding even rougher than stock, though I've never ridden in a stock Pioneer.
I'll get some "before" measurements and pics up here soon to document where I'm at, then when I get my stuff I'll make it a build thread, and have some follow-up pics, measurements, and observations.
Let's UPGRADE!
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