Talon Rear wheel hp numbers game

[Sandfreak]

Being the YXZ wasn't as efficient as Yamaha claimed, how do guys think the Honda will fare once it's thrown up on a chassis dyno? Think Alba said a little over 20% drivetrain loss on the YXZ which put it at around 88 rwhp.

 

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[CumminsPusher]

Being the YXZ wasn't as efficient as Yamaha claimed, how do guys think the Honda will fare once it's thrown up on a chassis dyno? Think Alba said a little over 20% drivetrain loss on the YXZ which put it at around 88 rwhp.

I would expect it to be a little better persentage then Yami. Even though I believe the Yami trans to be as efficient if not better it looses a bit with separated components.

 

[Deleted member 3748]

I would expect it to be a little better persentage then Yami. Even though I believe the Yami trans to be as efficient if not better it looses a bit with separated components.

Like some of the millennials on this site say, Honda doesn't do performance, so the Yamaha will beat it. *rolls eyes* I think the Talon will be compatible with the YXZ for this year.

 

[CumminsPusher]

Like some of the millennials on this site say, Honda doesn't do performance, so the Yamaha will beat it. *rolls eyes* I think the Talon will be compatible with the YXZ for this year.

After seeing the numbers I think they will be very close to the ground

 

[Sandfreak]

I hope the Honda will respond to a ecu tune and exhaust header as well as the YXZ. Even better would be a turbo kit if the Honda engine and transmission will be robust enough to handle another 50-70 hp.
Us dune and desert guys will want more power especially with some of us currently having 145-200 rwhp SXS's.

 

[Deleted member 3748]

After seeing the numbers I think they will be very close to the ground

Right up until the GYTR turbo opens up.

 

[CumminsPusher]

Right up until the GYT turbo opens up.

Lol. Well no s*** at some point boost will be available for the Honda

 

[Deleted member 3748]

Lol. Well no s*** at some point boost will be available for the Honda

Honda doesn't do performance! (says anyone born after the year 2000)

 

[Sandfreak]

After seeing the numbers I think they will be very close to the ground

That would be awesome but even a dct transmission in a half million dollar super car has around 15% loss.
Would be awesome to have almost no loss though.

 

[CumminsPusher]

That would be awesome but even a dct transmission in a half million dollar super car has around 15% loss.
Would be awesome to have almost no loss though.

It’s not going to be a ton more efficient like some think but being a married unit will help. At any rate better then a belt

 

[Plumber32]

I see the new mustang that does 200mph is dct. Must be something to it.

 

[Deleted member 3748]

It’s not going to be a ton more efficient like some think but being a married unit will help. At any rate better then a belt

 

[snuffnwhisky]

The pioneer lost about 24% so the Talon should be similar. That would put it at 79 rwhp.

 

[CumminsPusher]

I see the new mustang that does 200mph is dct. Must be something to it.

The Superbird with a 4 speed did 200 50 yrs ago...

 

[CumminsPusher]

The pioneer lost about 24% so the Talon should be similar. That would put it at 79 rwhp.

But hp has drastically increased with same trans setup so I would assume around the same hp loss, should be lower percentage loss?

 

[snuffnwhisky]

The yxz and talon trans are pretty much identical. The only real difference is 1 clutch vs 2.

 

[Deleted member 3748]

But hp has drastically increased with same trans setup so I would assume around the same hp loss, should be lower percentage loss?

Percentage should be exactly the same.

 

[CumminsPusher]

Don’t get all butthurt, I flipping love my Wolverine too!

 

[snuffnwhisky]

But hp has drastically increased with same trans setup so I would assume around the same hp loss, should be lower percentage loss?

You would think but the dynos say otherwise. It does seem the percentage goes down just a little though.

 

[snuffnwhisky]

The YXZ does have a heavy flywheel and a driveshaft to the trans so there would be a little loss there. I know they are getting pretty big gains drag racing the yxz just from a light weight flywheel, like 2 bike lengths. I saw somewhere that showed the Talon with 1 more rwhp than the RZR.