Adam490
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They are inside the airbox and are (hopefully) in the clamps holding the horns on.
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I heard about this happening a few weeks ago. I just pulled my air box off last weekend and snugged them down with a dab of blue loctite just to be safe. Only takes a few minutes to get in there and do that.
Hondasxs
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From what I understand.
Here are the 2 bolts to check. In this pic you can see it is fairly far out. Second pic is tight and the threads deformed to prevent it from falling out if it comes loose again.
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Here are the 2 bolts to check. In this pic you can see it is fairly far out. Second pic is tight and the threads deformed to prevent it from falling out if it comes loose again.
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The gap between the band ends should be 10MM.
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Thanks SxS. So those just hold on the flared intakes, but would be be a disaster if ingested in the engine.
Someone on this forum reported clamp being loose and causing dirt ingestion ruining the engine. I assume they are on the other side of airbox. Maybe we should be looking at them also.
Someone on this forum reported clamp being loose and causing dirt ingestion ruining the engine. I assume they are on the other side of airbox. Maybe we should be looking at them also.
Hondasxs
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And might as well check the filter bolts too while you are in there.
3 have holds. 5 do not.
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I had significant engine damage on a prior machine due to the tubes not properly installed on the throttle bodys. Different location, same sloppy workmanship/quality control.
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I get why they did that to the ones closest to the air boots but at that point why not make them all captured? Seems dumb not to.
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Looking at the manual.
It looks like the other 5 are blocked by the air box lid. If they come loose they can't fall into the intake without the lid being off.
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Enigma
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Great post 2021R. I had not see this recall. Thanks for helping out SXS members.
Just checked mine. Bolts were tight, gap between band ends is under 10mm, but the bolt threads are not deformed. Wondering if I should let the dealer do it to avoid any possible liability issues, or if I should “take the bull by the horns“, and take care of it myself. What think ye all?
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I wrestle with the same issue. Easy enough to deform a few threads. That's probably exactly what I'll do (once the temperature rises enough to keep my blood from freezing solid on the way to the barn...)
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#metoo 🥶 🥶 🥶 My Talon is long out of warranty and as much as I hate opening the airbox, it's time I had a look 'in there' anyways. The Hondabob snorkel with a Uni pod prefilter has worked so well, I haven't looked inside the airbox for long enough to be embarrassed about it. 😊
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Thanks for the pics. I understand the problem now. I think this was the cause of one Talon owner getting dirt into the engine and having to replace the entire engine (honda warranty and dealership paid the costs). Soooo, should we Loctite Blue these bolts after tightening just to make sure?? What do you think?
Hondasxs
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Lock tight won't hurt.
Make sure you use something to pinch the threads flat as close as you can to the nut.
This issue would not have caused any dirt to enter. It's a internal part inside the air box.
Really, I'm not even sure it's purpose.
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Checked my vin and my machine was in the recall. I’m snowbirding in Arizona for a couple months and go on rides at least once a week so this morning I thought I should check those clamps and I’m glad I did! Both were finger tight and about 5/8” between clamp openings. Tighten them down to about 3/8 and took a needle nose and buggered up the threads some.
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No, I don't. My first filter check was at 1066, the stock filter was spotless. My next check was at 25xx and it was still spotless. On that check, I was in a hurry and the airbox cover was dirty, I didn't want to remove the storage box and I had to lean over between the seats to remove the cover. Doing so, I bumped the cover against the body which dropped dust around the intake air horns, that made me think that I had an airbox leak. After checking everything over and realizing what had happened, I swore to never remove the cover without hosing off the entire area. Like many others, causing myself unnecessary problems by being in a rush.
The reason I don't have a filter minder is that I'd have to drill a hole in the airbox cover, adding a potential point of failure. A bit OCD but that's the reason. Since the stock filter is so well protected by the Uni pod prefilter, I don't see any need for a filter minder. But it would tell me my prefilter is dirty, again. 🤔
For the curious, details for Hondabob's snorkel and pod filter idea are linked in my sig, including the part numbers needed to make one, along with other basic Talon info.
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