P1000 Starving for fuel when hot

[Rustywrench]

Hello, though i do not own a honda SxS, i do work on them aswell as other atvs, i currently have a customers 2016 pioneer 1000eps, and it runs fine when cold, but once its up to temp it will die randomly, after the first time, it acts like its starving for fuel, it struggles to idle and has inconsistent throttle response, and will shutoff randomly every 30sec to a minute, usually on throttle, but at idle sometimes, i did try wiggling the wires on the: Fuel pump, Injectors, and what i think is the IACV, located on the center of the throttle body. Fuel injection is space tech to me🤣 i prefer carburetors, anyhow, Thanks in advance

 

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[Mopower58]

2016’s had a lot of injector wiring problems causing rough idle and dying. The club store sells a pigtail for each injector with connectors and heat shrink. The wire pulls loose right at the crimp.

 

[Neohio]

Upload a video of the dash when it dies. It should flash some sort code we can use to point you in the right direction.

Edit, upload video to youtube and copy/paste link here

 

[Rustywrench]

Upload a video of the dash when it dies. It should flash some sort code we can use to point you in the right direction.

Edit, upload video to youtube and copy/paste link here

Here you go, it looks like 1 long blink, then 2 short. To me, but im not sure how they do the code readouts

 

[Rustywrench]

Upload a video of the dash when it dies. It should flash some sort code we can use to point you in the right direction.

Edit, upload video to youtube and copy/paste link here

Also it didnt rev itself, i did to coaks to to stall, it wouldnt quite do it at idle

 

[Neohio]

injector issue.
code 12 and 13 is an injector problem.
Order 2 kits from the club store and install.

Honda Pioneer / Talon 1000 fuel injector wire repair kit. SXS1000

Fuel Injector Wiring seems to be a common issue. With many, the wires will pull right out of the OEM connectors with little effort. Hondas fix is to replace the entire wire harness and that could take months. This kit will help get you back on the trail in a short time. This is a custom kit...

store.hondasxs.com

P1000 - PGM-FI DTC 12/13 (Fuel Injector)

Good day ladies and gentlemen! My Labour day weekend riding was cut short due to some rear fuel injector issues. Chalmers is throwing a code 13 rear injector. I have had problems recreating the problem. It only seems to surface once I have ridden for quite some time. Makes be believe it is heat...

hondasxs.com

 

[JNo323]

My 2018 did the same thing. Crimp was good, but wires broke inside the insulation right at the plug. If you look closely at the plug you can see the wire still inside the crimps. Replaced with kit @Neohio mentioned and never had another issue.

 

[Neohio]

My 2018 did the same thing. Crimp was good, but wires broke inside the insulation right at the plug. If you look closely at the plug you can see the wire still inside the crimps. Replaced with kit @Neohio mentioned and never had another issue.

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I have a bunch of pictures in my thread linked. I had to figure it all out before the store had a repair kit.

 

[Rustywrench]

injector issue.
code 12 and 13 is an injector problem.
Order 2 kits from the club store and install.

Honda Pioneer / Talon 1000 fuel injector wire repair kit. SXS1000

Fuel Injector Wiring seems to be a common issue. With many, the wires will pull right out of the OEM connectors with little effort. Hondas fix is to replace the entire wire harness and that could take months. This kit will help get you back on the trail in a short time. This is a custom kit...

store.hondasxs.com

P1000 - PGM-FI DTC 12/13 (Fuel Injector)

Good day ladies and gentlemen! My Labour day weekend riding was cut short due to some rear fuel injector issues. Chalmers is throwing a code 13 rear injector. I have had problems recreating the problem. It only seems to surface once I have ridden for quite some time. Makes be believe it is heat...

hondasxs.com

Thank you, i appreciate some actual help, i was hesitant to post because my usual expirence is getting told the most basic thing, usually something iv tried already, or just getting sent in circles

 

[Neohio]

Thank you, i appreciate some actual help, i was hesitant to post because my usual expirence is getting told the most basic thing, usually something iv tried already, or just getting sent in circles

You helped us as much as we helped you.
YOU took the time to upload the video and share. Most just want to pull the parts cannon and do things their own way.

Although you did say you wiggled the injector wires without a change, if you give each wire a tug right at the connector, one of them will break. Check the thread I linked, or even the pics posted above.

 

[Rustywrench]

You helped us as much as we helped you.
YOU took the time to upload the video and share. Most just want to pull the parts cannon and do things their own way.

Although you did say you wiggled the injector wires without a change, if you give each wire a tug right at the connector, one of them will break. Check the thread I linked, or even the pics posted above.

Haha, yea most "Mechanics" are just parts changers, im a partly self-taught shadetree wrencher, i could never afford to throw parts at my stuff, so i dont with customers either, i also aim for much better work quality on customers stuff then my own

 

[Hello_Darkness]

Check the ground on top of the engine block by the started, put a socket on the bolt and make sure it's tight and not stripped

 

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[Rustywrench]

For anyone interested, not one, but both wires on the front cylinder injector were falling out, the rear has been replaced before, i will be replacing both to make sure there good

 

[Neohio]

For anyone interested, not one, but both wires on the front cylinder injector were falling out, the rear has been replaced before, i will be replacing both to make sure there good

It is a very common issue on 16-21's. Might be worth keeping a few on the bench if you work on these a fair amount.