P1000 Throttle response

[rob137]

New to this vehicle and forum. Got some great answers on my "Is this normal" post, so thought I would ask another question.

The machine feels very jerky/sensitive to throttle input. It almost feels like there is only 2 positions on the throttle, stop and all out. Very hard to find the sweet spot.

Its a 2018 1000 EPS. I did some searching and it looks like there was a clutch refactor that may help alleviate. I'm unsure how to determine if my unit would be eligible.

Or does it fall into the category of it gets better with more riding, both in terms of me getting used to it and/or break in?

 

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[Hondoman]

New to this vehicle and forum. Got some great answers on my "Is this normal" post, so thought I would ask another question.

The machine feels very jerky/sensitive to throttle input. It almost feels like there is only 2 positions on the throttle, stop and all out. Very hard to find the sweet spot.

Its a 2018 1000 EPS. I did some searching and it looks like there was a clutch refactor that may help alleviate. I'm unsure how to determine if my unit would be eligible.

Or does it fall into the category of it gets better with more riding, both in terms of me getting used to it and/or break in?

Mine was a little jerky at first too, but I got used to it pretty quickly. It still can be when someone new drives it or my daughter who doesn't drive it too often.

There is a product called throttle maxx that helps supposedly, but I have no first hand experience with it.

 

[Montecresto]

New to this vehicle and forum. Got some great answers on my "Is this normal" post, so thought I would ask another question.

The machine feels very jerky/sensitive to throttle input. It almost feels like there is only 2 positions on the throttle, stop and all out. Very hard to find the sweet spot.

Its a 2018 1000 EPS. I did some searching and it looks like there was a clutch refactor that may help alleviate. I'm unsure how to determine if my unit would be eligible.

Or does it fall into the category of it gets better with more riding, both in terms of me getting used to it and/or break in?

The Throttle Max helped with this.

P1000 - Throttle Maxx pedal

 

[sharp]

New to this vehicle and forum. Got some great answers on my "Is this normal" post, so thought I would ask another question.

The machine feels very jerky/sensitive to throttle input. It almost feels like there is only 2 positions on the throttle, stop and all out. Very hard to find the sweet spot.

Its a 2018 1000 EPS. I did some searching and it looks like there was a clutch refactor that may help alleviate. I'm unsure how to determine if my unit would be eligible.

Or does it fall into the category of it gets better with more riding, both in terms of me getting used to it and/or break in?

Foot finesse, muscle memory it takes some getting used too.

 

[Elbow]

I realize this is a 2018 thread but I have a 2017 machine.
In my experience, the throttle is impossible to control smoothly on slow, rough, hilly trails. It's not a matter of practice and experience, like some say. I have 60 years of experience driving all types of machines.
Also, the Honda Pioneer has no power at all (not enough rpm's) until you get to 7 kph in low gear, which makes it very hard to use on rough hilly trails. And at very slow speeds on rough terrain, the clutch tends to slip (and burn). This machine needs a lower gear.
But as usual, Honda blames these problems on "Operator Error". Honda's "brilliant" solution is to use the winch.

 

[HondaTech]

I realize this is a 2018 thread but I have a 2017 machine.
In my experience, the throttle is impossible to control smoothly on slow, rough, hilly trails. It's not a matter of practice and experience, like some say. I have 60 years of experience driving all types of machines.
Also, the Honda Pioneer has no power at all (not enough rpm's) until you get to 7 kph in low gear, which makes it very hard to use on rough hilly trails. And at very slow speeds on rough terrain, the clutch tends to slip (and burn). This machine needs a lower gear.
But as usual, Honda blames these problems on "Operator Error". Honda's "brilliant" solution is to use the winch.

Your machine may have never had the clutch update, the clutches could he damaged as well.

I also recommend (as does Honda) doing a clutch relearn every oil change.

You can also stop copy/pasting the same response in 3 different threads and see if that works.

 

[Jerryg]

Does Honda make a throttle map option like the RMAX D-Mode?

 

[Elbow]

Your machine may have never had the clutch update, the clutches could he damaged as well.

I also recommend (as does Honda) doing a clutch relearn every oil change.

You can also stop copy/pasting the same response in 3 different threads and see if that works.

My machine has had the clutch update, and clutch #1 (the one I mainly use) was recently changed with another clutch relearn.

The problems I mention relate only to slow, rough, hilly trails (which is what I mainly use). And when I say “no power”, I again mean on slow (less than 7 kph), hilly terrain where you can’t get enough rpms to get some power.

Instead of being defensive and trying to protect Honda’s reputation, you should insist that they make improvements.

I’ve been hearing about these problems is various forms for many years, and I’ve only heard about Honda blaming customers, so I’m justified in repeating my message as often as I like, copy and paste or otherwise.

 

[HondaTech]

My machine has had the clutch update, and clutch #1 (the one I mainly use) was recently changed with another clutch relearn.

The problems I mention relate only to slow, rough, hilly trails (which is what I mainly use). And when I say “no power”, I again mean on slow (less than 7 kph), hilly terrain where you can’t get enough rpms to get some power.

Instead of being defensive and trying to protect Honda’s reputation, you should insist that they make improvements.

I’ve been hearing about these problems is various forms for many years, and I’ve only heard about Honda blaming customers, so I’m justified in repeating my message as often as I like, copy and paste or otherwise.

Honda ain't for everyone, my GM and his friend put over 4k miles on 2 machines climbing the hills and hollers of black moutain in Harlan, KY.

It don't get much more rough and hilly then them old hills.

Maybe a belt machine is your best bet.

 

[Jerryg]

Maybe a belt machine is your best bet.

Funny, you say that like its a bad thing.

You can keep your jerky, jumpy, cable adjusted, relearned casserole of nonsense.

 

[Remington]

I’ve been hearing about these problems is various forms

Thats a problem right there! “Many forums” we is the only one with real info you know! 🤣
So we need to get some things straight here about your claim. This isnt being a smart ass.
You say….

I again mean on slow (less than 7 kph), hilly terrain where you can’t get enough rpms to get some power.

Is your machine stock? What size tires? What mods for weight? Etc..
thats another reason we ask for pics and info. You cant just lay this claim without that cuz we may have your answer. Might not be what you want to hear, but it WILL answer a majority of your claim. This is why we stand out above other forums. We deal with the Facts when its ALL including pics are laid out.
If your still not happy with that, then I suggest a jeep or a Bronco.
Ok not a jeep, you’ll have multiple issues and you’ll b!itch about that too. 🤣

I’m justified in repeating my message as often as I like, copy and paste

Okie dokie then….
So you can copy and Paste a pic then right? 🤔 😏
POIDH

 

[HondaTech]

Funny, you say that like its a bad thing.

You can keep your jerky, jumpy, cable adjusted, relearned casserole of nonsense.

I'll push a Honda before I own a rubber band.

 

[Jerryg]

I'll push a Honda before I own a rubber band.

Don't worry bro, us Yamaha owners will give you a tow

 

[Remington]

Don't worry bro, us Yamaha owners will give you a tow

I smell rubber! 😩😜

 

[Jerryg]

I smell rubber! 😩😜

I don't know what you have going on over there, but count me out......

 

[LarryAmboy]

Don't worry bro, us Yamaha owners will give you a tow

Yamaha ha ha ha

That’s a joke. Go Red or be dead


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[bumperm]

I bet there ain't a Honda owning, non-Yamaha owner hanging out making grunting and f_ _ting noises, trying to besmirch the brand over on the rubber band site. Honda owners are too busy having fun for such frivolous nonsense.