P1000 Trailer axel question

[bullyx]

looking at utiliy trailers.
Would a single axel be smart? Or better off looking for a tandem axel?
1: aluminum 6x12 legend singel axel
2: steel 7x12 big tex dual axel

Both same price basically

So, just want opinions

Thanks all

 

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[Hondasxs]

Personally, a 12ft is too short for a dual unless you plan to haul something heavy.
I have a 7x12 single axle myself.
It's too big for just the Pioneer and the road. Its wider than my truck considering the outer fenders.
If I did it again, I would have gone with a 6ft.
6ft aluminum would be nice to own.

 

[Russ989]

I have a 76”x12’ single axle that’s been great but if I did it all over again I’d buy a 16’ dual axle for towing long distance.

 

[bullyx]

Personally, a 12ft is too short for a dual unless you plan to haul something heavy.
I have a 7x12 single axle myself.
It's too big for just the Pioneer and the road. Its wider than my truck considering the outer fenders.
If I did it again, I would have gone with a 6ft.
6ft aluminum would be nice to own.

You see any sway issues with a single?

 

[CID]

I think the dual axle is overkill for anything under 16' assuming you're only hauling one SxS. My Talon on an Echo 14' steel trailer with a 3500 pound axle (1100 pounds to spare). There's enough room for camping gear or trail bike when I want. Two axles have twice the friction so mileage will suffer 'some'. fwiw: The Talon is 124" long.

I'm at the local mall setting up tongue weight (12-15% of total trailer weight), it's unhooked so I put a jack stand under the rear bumper so I couldn't tip the trailer backward.

 

[TumaloKeith]

Ya, I agree the double axle is overkill, but I did it anyway. They sure ride nice, and if I'm on a gravel road and get a flat I can keep going. I even put D rated tires on it. My old 16 foot was nice to put extra stuff on, but I still have room for coolers and gas cans, etc on the 12 foot trailer. And with the sides I don't have to worry as much about stuff flying out it. But it all adds more weight, so a single axle is really all ya need. This is a picture from when I just picked up the SxS new, so it's clean and no extras yet.

 

[bullyx]

Ya, I agree the double axle is overkill, but I did it anyway. They sure ride nice, and if I'm on a gravel road and get a flat I can keep going. I even put D rated tires on it. My old 16 foot was nice to put extra stuff on, but I still have room for coolers and gas cans, etc on the 12 foot trailer. And with the sides I don't have to worry as much about stuff flying out it. But it all adds more weight, so a single axle is really all ya need. This is a picture from when I just picked up the SxS new, so it's clean and no extras yet.

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That's really the big advantage, a blow out won't be awful. My other concern is if weight is wrong, will a single sway easier

 

[JenElio]

For just hauling a sxs I think the single axle is perfect. Tandem axle is nice in case of a blow out though, I just make sure my tires are taken care of, I don't mind replacing every year or so depending on usage. I have a 6.5x12 and I pull the P1K5 all the way forward till it hits the front bars. That puts most of the weight right over the axle where u want it. Never had a swaying issue.

 

[Ohio4x4]

I run a home made 18' tilt trailer. 2 axels at 3500lbs each. The rear axel has brakes. I run 8 ply tires also. We trailer anywhere and everywhere to ride and I usually dont have an abundance of time to ready for the next trip. The peace of mind from knowing I can strap a damaged axel up and roll on is worth the extra size in trailer. Also for my use I haul all kinds of crap. At this point the 18' has become a minimum. I'm looking to add a large enclosed trailer with living quarters and a 16k 25+5 gooseneck to the collection. Fyi 18 feet is the bare minimum to fit two pioneers on. As of now I only have one lol but I like to plan ahead.

 

[Tallgrass]

I transitioned from a 6’x12’ single axel to a 6’ 5”x 14’ dovetail, tandem axel and glad I did. The tandem is a much smoother pull with less tettering on the hitch loaded traveling at 75mph down the hwy, versus the single axel. The tandem weights about 1250 lbs empty. The P1K5 pulls the tandem loaded with fire wood around my place with ease.

My 2 cents

 

[Smitty335]

Know who built the first torsion axel that was used on a trailer and built trailers?

 

[Tallgrass]

Pee Wee Herman..... Who?

 

[Smitty335]

Pee Wee Herman..... Who?

Studebaker after WW II, they quit manufacturing cars and had all these torsen bar axels and started building trailers, saw one Tuesday at a trailer shop.

 

[Tramguage1]

Another plus with tandem axles you can change a flat without a jack!

 

[Hondasxs]

You see any sway issues with a single?

Not if loaded correctly.
See how CID has his loaded.
Too much foward and its too much weight on the truck.
Too far back and you will sway a lot.
His pic is the sweet spot.

 

[CRob8348]

I have a HP trailer that I ordered. 12' long and 85" inside the 2' tall sides with a bi-fold re-enforced gate. I will use it for more than just towing the SxS too. I haven't had any issues towing my machine to and from Colorado at highway speeds. I also went way overboard on the axle, but I wanted brakes on it too. It is a 5200lb single axle that didn't cost that much to upgrade to. I like to over buy then I never say, "I wish I would have done this or that".

 

[EMAW]

I’ve had extremely good luck with Load Trail trailers. Both tandem axles and single. The Dexter axles have been awesome on all brand of trailers we have owned ( boat, 5th wheels, equipment, utility trailers)!!!

 

[Plumber32]

Man I would never ever use a single axel for a pioneer again. Bounces like crazy. 16-18' tandem is ideal. 20' min if you plan on ever hauling 2.

 

[Bad_bowtie]

Man I would never ever use a single axel for a pioneer again. Bounces like crazy. 16-18' tandem is ideal. 20' min if you plan on ever hauling 2.

Ditto Rick, my 14' Tandem works but I'd prefer bigger. Would really like my next one to be a 22' tandem for when we get a second machine, or so I can haul my buddys, plus the wife likes to occasionally bring her Rancher along.

 

[oldfortyfive]

I'm hauling my P500 on a single axle aluminum 5x10 trailer. Haven't noticed any bounce. I haul 1300 miles to Montana and 650 miles to South Dakota and back each year. No issues to speak of.