P1000 Upgraded low gear Replacement

[LJSXS]

Hi all! It’s been a while since I’ve been on the forum. As the topic says, I’m wanting to go ahead and replace my low gear as well as put a lower reverse talon gear in. Has this been the consensus for a permanent fix? I read where Honda upgraded this design for 22 models. My low gear works, but grinds from time to time. I have some down time with this buggy, so thought I would go ahead and go in and replace reverse gear and replace low gear at the same time. Also, does someone have the part numbers needed for this replacement with the lower talon reverse? Thank you

 

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[P1K5Dave]

Here's your thread:

Thread 'Sub-Transmission Service' P1000 - Sub-Transmission Service

 

[Remington]

Hi all! It’s been a while since I’ve been on the forum.

Sure has! Since ScamDemic times!
Welcome back anyway.👍🏻

So you posted this on a P1 thread but you talked about a Talon low gear. Cant see on your profile what rig you have?
never the less, the first post has something for the P1, heres one for the Talon.
Use the search as we like to say. Its your friend and most topics have been covered.

2022 gear ratio update info?

I think he might be referring to Pioneer only, the Talon ratios show to all be the same. Even the 2 large final gears in the sub trans are the same teeth count. When I checked I thought both the Talon and the Pioneer got a lower high range gear in the sub transmission in 2022 the smaller of...

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[LJSXS]

2019 1000-3. Bottom of my sig it should be anyway

 

[Remington]

2019 1000-3. Bottom of my sig it should be anyway

cool good to know👍🏻

Its not on my end anyway. Maybe if your on a laptop its different? I use the site on my phone and this is all it shows me no worries tho

 

[RoyLee89]

Pioneer Talon Revers Gear parts with the newest updated parts as of last year.
I haven't checked to see if they have newer parts out. But these are what i ordered last year.

23691-HL6-A00 Gear, Reverse Drive (25T) Talon Part
23701-HL6-A00 Gear, Reverse Idle (16T/22T) Talon Part
23650-HL4-000 Gear, Final Drive Low Pioneer
24215-GL4-000 Gear, Fork, Sub-Gearshift (RR) Pioneer
23751-HL4-000 Shifter, Low Reverse

They have alot of info on the Rebuild

P1000 - Sub-Transmission Service | HONDASXS - The Honda Side by Side Club!

Hi all! It’s been a while since I’ve been on the forum. As the topic says, I’m wanting to go ahead and replace my low gear as well as put a lower reverse talon gear in. Has this been the consensus for a permanent fix? I read where Honda upgraded this design for 22 models. My low gear works, but grinds from time to time. I have some down time with this buggy, so thought I would go ahead and go in and replace reverse gear and replace low gear at the same time. Also, does someone have the part numbers needed for this replacement with the lower talon reverse? Thank you

 

[LJSXS]

cool good to know👍🏻

Its not on my end anyway. Maybe if your on a laptop its different? I use the site on my phone and this is all it shows me no worries tho
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Ya I’m on my iPad.

 

[CID]

2019 1000-3. Bottom of my sig it should be anyway

Ya I’m on my iPad.

fwiw: I can see your 1000-3 in your avatar panel on my desktop and iPad.

 

[LJSXS]

These are the parts I ordered. Let me know if I missed something. These are the upgraded parts that came out in 21 or 22 models from what I gathered on this site from reading numerous amounts of info. 😎

 

[toddvdh]

I remembered something about a star when mine was broken so I looked. Good luck!

 

[TripleB]

These are the parts I ordered. Let me know if I missed something. These are the upgraded parts that came out in 21 or 22 models from what I gathered on this site from reading numerous amounts of info. 😎

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In the future always order OEM parts from ronayers.com or rockymountainatvmc.com. Every part is usually 10-25% off plus free shipping and sometimes no tax depending on where you live. If your gonna pay full price, you might as well go to your local dealer and spend some money.

 

[DRZRon1]

I have found both of them to be about same low cost when going OEM. Been buying a lot lately - I think Ayer’s is lower but charges shipping, The others have free shipping but a little higher cost - seems to be a wash. All good suppliers.

 

[TripleB]

I have found both of them to be about same low cost when going OEM. Been buying a lot lately - I think Ayer’s is lower but charges shipping, The others have free shipping but a little higher cost - seems to be a wash. All good suppliers.

I always buy enough from ronayers.com to get free shipping and they don't charge me tax. Rockymountainatvmc.com you can spend less to get free shipping but they charge me tax.

 

[RoyLee89]

I would look over you list and double check as i would hate to open the Subtrans and start the rebuild and then have to order more parts.
Make sure you look at Part #3, #6 & #8 these are a must if you are having popping in an out of gear low and Reverse.

2022 Honda Pioneer 1000 (SXS1000M5D6A) Final Drive Shaft

Shop online for OEM Final Drive Shaft parts that fit your 2022 Honda Pioneer 1000 (SXS1000M5D6A), search all our OEM Parts or call at 252-758-3084

www.ronayers.com

This is off of partZilla as i like to have the part lay out this way and able to zoom in a bit more. Prices are better on Ronayers.

These are the parts I ordered. Let me know if I missed something. These are the upgraded parts that came out in 21 or 22 models from what I gathered on this site from reading numerous amounts of info. 😎

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[LJSXS]

In the future always order OEM parts from ronayers.com or rockymountainatvmc.com. Every part is usually 10-25% off plus free shipping and sometimes no tax depending on where you live. If your gonna pay full price, you might as well go to your local dealer and spend some money.

All these parts were ordered from Ron Ayers.

 

[RoyLee89]

All these parts were ordered from Ron Ayers.

I didnt see the #3 part on your list. You did say that low would slip? #3 & #8 as a pair for Low jumping / grinding.


If so I would get the "Guide FinalLow shifter".
23652-HL4-AJ0

 

[LJSXS]

I didnt see the #3 part on your list. You did say that low would slip? #3 & #8 as a pair for Low jumping / grinding.


If so I would get the "Guide FinalLow shifter".
23652-HL4-AJ0

Ok thanks

 

[LJSXS]

Ok thanks

Low isn’t slipping, it’s just grinding sometimes going into low and then occasionally will pop when taking off in low.

 

[Remington]

Low isn’t slipping, it’s just grinding sometimes going into low and then occasionally will pop when taking off in low.

Not sure if someone makes an updated gate for the shifter for a P1 like we have with talons to fix that issue? If someone does, that would help. Or maybe you just need a cable adjustment?

 

[RoyLee89]

P1000 - Is it hard to fully engage LOW in your Pioneer 1000 ??

Over in the Talon section there is a thread about low gear engagement issues: https://hondasxs.com/threads/available-modified-talon-shift-gate-to-help-with-low-engagement-issues.21715/#post-636064 @PaulF has designed a different shift gate to allow the shifter to move a little further in order...

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Like Remington said make sure the cable is adjusted. this will help ensure this keeps from happing.

Keep us posted on the rebuild.

Low isn’t slipping, it’s just grinding sometimes going into low and then occasionally will pop when taking off in low.