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UPDATED FRIDAY NIGHT
HD-9 PHOTOS UNDER SB-4 IN POST #2


I narrowed my wheel choice down to 2. These will be installed on a 1000X that I'm patiently waiting to leave the Timmonsville, SC plant and shipped to any dealer within 250 miles of me 😎.

Wheel #1:
System 3 SB-4 matte black
15x7 4/137 6+1 (+45)
mfg item #15S3-3137

Wheel #2:
STI HD9 matte black
15x7 4/137 6+1 (+50)
mfg item #15HB928

These 2 are really popular, especially if you want to square up a Talon with beadlocks without adding much more width. I also found them to be the cheapest and both are decent looking wheels. Definitely not as strong as a forged wheel or even an American made counterpart but wife looks at bank account, not the quality of wheels I buy for my toys.

I ordered 1 of each to compare. Weight will be most important but also quality as I assume both are made in China.
The System 3 showed up today. The STI should be here tomorrow.

Stay tuned and enjoy!
 
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System 3 SB-4:
The basics:
20230823 18365620230823 18362620230823 175802

The candy:
20230823 18003420230823 17572320230823 17564020230823 175623

The stats:
20230823 183206
16.6 lbs. With all beadlock bolts installed.
20230823 181222
5.5" backspace
20230823 182809
2 3/16" from flange face to beadlock ring face
20230823 182135
4 spare bolts + allen wrench for center cap

Extras:
20230823 18224320230823 182247
I could only run 2 bolts down by hand. If I keep these, I'll use a thread chaser to clean up before install.20230823 182253
View attachment 400472 20230823 182809

STI HD-9:

20230824 15145720230824 15171920230824 15175820230824 15180220230824 151821

NOT SCIENTIFIC W/BATHROOM SCALE!!!
Weights were all over so I changed batteries. System 3 stayed same at 16.6.
STI came in at 16.6 without ring bolts, sorry 🙄
20230825 213220
5 5/8" backspace
20230825 155346
2" from flange face to ring face
20230825 155731

Extras:

Was able to hand thread a few more than the System 3.

20230825 16033220230825 16032420230825 16031720230825 160310

Rings fit on both and appeared identical at first glance. mfg #'s are a lil different though.
20230825 16093020230825 160919

The 018 ring on left is 8.5mm
The 965 ring on right is 10mm
20230825 212604 20230825 212559

Wheels without rings
20230825 161305
 
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Love my STI HD9's. Note that the 15" wheels weren't available with red beadlock rings, I painted mine with the last tire change. I'm used up on blacked out everything on SxS's but that's just me.
View attachment 400494
I'm tired of black too. I'll do a colored ring also...likely red👍
If I remember correctly, I saw the colored rings available for the 14" only.
 
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System 3 SB-4:

The basics:
View attachment 400447View attachment 400448View attachment 400449

The candy:
View attachment 400453View attachment 400454View attachment 400455View attachment 400456

The stats:
View attachment 400459
16.6 lbs. With all beadlock bolts installed.
View attachment 400460
5.5" backspace
View attachment 400463
2 3/16" from flange face to beadlock ring face
View attachment 400464
4 spare bolts + allen wrench for center cap

Extras:
View attachment 400468View attachment 400469
I could only run 2 bolts down by hand. If I keep these, I'll use a thread chaser to clean up before install.View attachment 400470
View attachment 400472 View attachment 400471
That rim is marked 15x6.5 not 7.
Having to chase all the threads on something brand new is why I hate buying made in china stuff. There's some MFer somewhere getting rich from our purchases and we get to do some of the Rework before it can be used.
A few years ago I bought a wheelbarrow that stated: Built In America!
As I was assembling obviously made in china parts(the tires were marked made in china) I realized that I WAS THE ASSEMBLED IN USA PART. They got me and some MFer is still laughing his ass off spending my hard earned cash.
 
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@ODAMO, I have ordered a bunch of stuff from one of the very popular HondaSXS.com forum vendors in the past 2+ years.

I happened to look @ the box for a large ticket item (can't remember what). I don't remember the exact wording, but on the box was printed MADE IN AMERICA (or something simlar) in BIG letters ... then in smaller font just below, it indicated that the parts came from China.
 
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@ODAMO, I have ordered a bunch of stuff from one of the very popular HondaSXS.com forum vendors in the past 2+ years.

I happened to look @ the box for a large ticket item (can't remember what). I don't remember the exact wording, but on the box was printed MADE IN AMERICA (or something simlar) in BIG letters ... then in smaller font just below, it indicated that the parts came from China.
There is alot of "Assembled in USA " being used in advertising these days. We use to look for MADE IN USA, now the best we can hope for is "assembled here". Its one of the last vestiges we have left.
Did not ever think "truth in advertising" would be used again but here we are and the truth hurts.
For me personally there are times I just do without if my only choice is china shat. If I can make it instead all the better.

Edit: I do realize that our beloved Pioneers and Talons are also Assembled in USA but they are not china centric. I enjoy discovering yet another part on it that is Not made in china
 
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Just as confusing as all the various expiration dates used for food products, such as "Buy Before", "Use By", "Best By", "Sell By", "Freeze By", etc. Honestly, I'd say the made/built/assembled in USA is actually MORE confusing that these ... ;)
 
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I'd like to do a Made In USA tire thread. I know most, if not all, ITP are made here. Read somewhere a person received his Interco tires and he said they say "made in china" idk tho.
 
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Just as confusing as all the various expiration dates used for food products, such as "Buy Before", "Use By", "Best By", "Sell By", "Freeze By", etc. Honestly, I'd say the made/built/assembled in USA is actually MORE confusing that these ... ;)
You forgot "Born on"
 
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Just as confusing as all the various expiration dates used for food products, such as "Buy Before", "Use By", "Best By", "Sell By", "Freeze By", etc. Honestly, I'd say the made/built/assembled in USA is actually MORE confusing that these ... ;)
It's all by design. I swear they come up with this crap to have a good laugh in their meetings. Then sell the wording to us like they care about America, then call use "useless consumers" in the same breath.
 
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Just an FYI I have 3 left over bead lock rings only from that wheel I have destroyed racing on too low of air pressure. You pay for the shipping. From 85755. Rings did not get hurt just sun bleached from sitting behind shop.
 
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