P500 2017 seatbelt safety disable

[TeamCheap]

I just plug seat belt in and sit ON it but I actually want the limiter active for "certain" people that may drive it.

 

[Admin]

 

[ncemt237]

well, i noticed when i test drove the 700 that they had the seatbelt pluged in just like that, but i didnt think anything of it

 

[Mudwing]

I just plug seat belt in and sit ON it but I actually want the limiter active for "certain" people that may drive it.

Like this?

 

[TeamCheap]

Like this?View attachment 74141

yep, like that now some people may find it uncomfortable but me with my....shall I say ample padding feel nothing.

 

[32690taylor]

Ok.. so I hated that every time I jumped in the pioneer to run from the house to garage or around the farm, the unhooked seatbelt would auto engage the 14mph speed limit feature. That's dumb!!!

So tonight I disconnected it.. all you need is a T10 torx.

First..
unscrew all four T10 torx screws from the back of the seatbelt.

Behind the cover you'll find a wire going to a magnetic sensor.. there is another half to this on the opposite cover.

Remove the sensor side that does NOT have the wire going to it. It simply slides in and out.

This will disable the seatbelt warning and auto speed limiter.

Replace the cover and tighten screws. You now have disabled the stupid safety feature for the 2017 pioneer 500. I'm sure the 700 and 1000 models work the same.

***NOTE*** under the seats there is a plastic cowling. If the cowling is removed and you follow the seatbelt wire back, you'll find a plug connection. You cannot simply unplug the sensor from the wiring harness by the seat belts. This will simply cause the seatbelt warning to stay on regardless of the belt being buckled.


This was a prefect time to remove the ridged drivers seatbelt buckle and replace it with a floppy style.. Thanks to @Jshell3!!! This allows me to now use the full bench seat with no obstructions, as can be done in the 2015 & 2016 p500's.

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Thanks for the tip. Works well on a P 1000 also

 

[JTW]

Thanks for the tip. Works well on a P 1000 also

Yup.. glad to be of service!

 

[dtng]

i had a 2016 500, hated the thing.... But i never wore the seat belt, and was never speed limited..... just went to a 2018 700.... wife called me tonight and said it all the sudden wont go past 11 or so, so i asked here and was informed about the limiter... first i heard of it... stupid people and their stupid safety... lol

I don't think it has anything to do with safety, more about lawyers and customers not taking responsibility for their actions. Cheaper to add the limiter than go to court because someone was doing something they shouldn't have done, wasn't wearing a seat belt, and then blames the manufacturer for allowing them to do it. It's the world we live in, just my 2 cents.

 

[wildbill321]

It didn't work on my 2017 P500. 30 miles on it, can't go past 13 mph. I even held both pieces together so my switch must be bad.

 

[dls1966]

Really?it worked on my 2017 in fact I use it to hold post it notes on my refrigerator
They also sell just the metal piece of your seat belt that you just plug in and leave it

 

[Gassygordo]

It didn't work on my 2017 P500. 30 miles on it, can't go past 13 mph. I even held both pieces together so my switch must be bad.

Worked on my 17.

 

[TeamCheap]

If I ever get around to thermal-vacuum-forming a new dash cover with several spots for switches I think I'll have a spot for a seat belt latch over-ride button for that option when I want it. Just hit the button, it will be lit telling me the seat belt safety has been over ridden.
There is a site that makes round custom buttons that you can have your own custom graphics and labels put on, a bit pricey but so what it's only money .

 

[JTW]

If I ever get around to thermal-vacuum-forming a new dash cover with several spots for switches I think I'll have a spot for a seat belt latch over-ride button for that option when I want it. Just hit the button, it will be lit telling me the seat belt safety has been over ridden.
There is a site that makes round custom buttons that you can have your own custom graphics and labels put on, a bit pricey but so what it's only money .

OTRATTW

 

[trigger]

OTRATTW

To Grandmothers house?

 

[JTW]

To Grandmothers house?

‘‘Tis the season!

 

[dls1966]

OTRATTW

I must be old cause I didn't know what that meant

 

[wildbill321]

Really?it worked on my 2017 in fact I use it to hold post it notes on my refrigerator
They also sell just the metal piece of your seat belt that you just plug in and leave it View attachment 97752

I will try cutting the wires and splicing them next.

 

[Mudder]

Cheap alternative, don’t know if it fits P500 shape. 1PC Universal Car Auto Bottle Opener Seat Belt Buckle Alarm Stopper Clip hc | eBay

 

[wildbill321]

Cheap alternative, don’t know if it fits P500 shape. 1PC Universal Car Auto Bottle Opener Seat Belt Buckle Alarm Stopper Clip hc | eBay

 

[wildbill321]

My problem is the seatbelt is being used and the light is on and can't go over 13mph.

 

[tomcj2]

My problem is the seatbelt is being used and the light is on and can't go over 13mph.

In the first post of this thread JTW stated:

***NOTE*** under the seats there is a plastic cowling. If the cowling is removed and you follow the seatbelt wire back, you'll find a plug connection. You cannot simply unplug the sensor from the wiring harness by the seat belts. This will simply cause the seatbelt warning to stay on regardless of the belt being buckled.

Have you looked to see if this connector is connected?
If it is connected perhaps the magnetically activated switch in the latch is bad. I would guess that the switch is "normally open" and the circuit would be "closed" when the seatbelt is latched. If so, you could put a jumper in the socket to close the circuit. If that doesn't work the problem may be in the ECM.