P1000m5 28" or 30" tires?

[Rick53]

A tune also helps with the torque. I upgraded to 28" Maxxis Carnivores and noticed a big difference vs stock tires that actually measure out to 25". I got the tune package through Complete Off-road Performance and made a huuuge difference. I even have reverse shifting now.

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What it cost and are there any down sides like engine and trans life?

 

[tdhanses]

You can flash the factory tune back to the ECM with a Power Vision 3, or just pick up a spare ECM to install in the off chance you need to bring it in for warranty work.

While true it will still leave a trace of the tune, also all the stock parameters will show no use or have any stored data which is a red flag, now I’m not sure how up on this stuff dealers are compared to pickup dealers that are required to look for and at times to even send the ecm to the manufacturer. A tune while under warranty is just not a great idea.

 

[Adam490]

While true it will still leave a trace of the tune, also all the stock parameters will show no use or have any stored data which is a red flag, now I’m not sure how up on this stuff dealers are compared to pickup dealers that are required to look for and at times to even send the ecm to the manufacturer. A tune while under warranty is just not a great idea.

They'd have to prove it. You could have disconnected your battery to install some accessories and forgot to reconnect, that doesn't void a warranty.

 

[Gabbas]

They'd have to prove it. You could have disconnected your battery to install some accessories and forgot to reconnect, that doesn't void a warranty.

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That's the s***ty part. Honda could simply just say no, because it shows "no data" and that could be reasons enough. For anyone worried about warranty work I suggest getting a separate ECU and put the Tune on there. Then just swap them out.

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[tdhanses]

That's the s***ty part. Honda could simply just say no, because it shows "no data" and that could be reasons enough. For anyone worried about warranty work I suggest getting a separate ECU and put the Tune on there. Then just swap them out.

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I don’t believe it wouldn’t show any data, believe it retains a bunch that can never be removed from the day it rolls off the factory floor. If you had a new ecm that showed no activity yet a worn and muddy utv, doubt it would fool them. In the end if you tune just be ready to pay and if you get lucky with warranty be happy but I bet only 1/10 get lucky especially for a blown motor or trans etc. And I doubt anyone is willing to take Honda to court because they deny a warranty claim plus most of us post everything we do on a public forum so wouldn’t be hard to see what we say we did/do to our equipment.

 

[Gabbas]

I don’t believe it wouldn’t show any data, believe it retains a bunch that can never be removed from the day it rolls off the factory floor. If you had a new ecm that showed no activity yet a worn and muddy utv, doubt it would fool them. In the end if you tune just be ready to pay and if you get lucky with warranty be happy but I bet only 1/10 get lucky especially for a blown motor or trans etc. And I doubt anyone is willing to take Honda to court because they deny a warranty claim plus most of us post everything we do on a public forum so wouldn’t be hard to see what we say we did/do to our equipment.

Well I don't have warranty to worry about. Honestly it shouldn't be an issue. Talking to the guys that tune Hondas, they run better, more efficient and a lot cooler after the tune. From factory they are so f'ed up because of emissions that they are probably going to last longer, having a tune.

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[Rick53]

Well I don't have warranty to worry about. Honestly it shouldn't be an issue. Talking to the guys that tune Hondas, they run better, more efficient and a lot cooler after the tune. From factory they are so f'ed up because of emissions that they are probably going to last longer, having a tune.

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In the last 25 years I have chipped and programed a lot of street vehicles. In most cases a 50% or better reduction in emissions and major changes in both engine and transmission performance. I think they don't want the average nimrod getting himself into trouble and then claiming it was their fault. I just would like to know more about it before I do it to my Pioneer.

 

[Gabbas]

In the last 25 years I have chipped and programed a lot of street vehicles. In most cases a 50% or better reduction in emissions and major changes in both engine and transmission performance. I think they don't want the average nimrod getting himself into trouble and then claiming it was their fault. I just would like to know more about it before I do it to my Pioneer.

Oh 100% agreed. I have done it to vehicles I have owned. Especially modern mopars. They are a whole different ball game. Lol. Like Mopars I went to COPS because they specialize in Hondas and are now starting to get into Kawasaki's. They've been doing it for a while and have a good rep. Down to earth people who go out for their way to help. So far after 3 months, my machine runs, idles, and starts much better. Its a lot cooler, the cabin temp is way down. It has more torque, and never have a problem crawling over an obstacle without a running start.

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[tdhanses]

Oh 100% agreed. I have done it to vehicles I have owned. Especially modern mopars. They are a whole different ball game. Lol. Like Mopars I went to COPS because they specialize in Hondas and are now starting to get into Kawasaki's. They've been doing it for a while and have a good rep. Down to earth people who go out for their way to help. So far after 3 months, my machine runs, idles, and starts much better. Its a lot cooler, the cabin temp is way down. It has more torque, and never have a problem crawling over an obstacle without a running start.

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So do they only have a FB presence? What was the cost of the tune and assume it is PV3 based? Do you get multiple tunes or only one? Need more details As I looked at their FB page but really didn’t tell me crap about what they offer or what it does other then we tune and offer a cooling package with new t-stat. I’m truly interested just find it hard to find stuff on an FB page unless you constantly follow the page.

 

[Gabbas]

So do they only have a FB presence? What was the cost of the tune and assume it is PV3 based? Do you get multiple tunes or only one? Need more details As I looked at their FB page but really didn’t tell me crap about what they offer or what it does other then we tune and offer a cooling package with new t-stat. I’m truly interested just find it hard to find stuff on an FB page unless you constantly follow the page.

I think Facebook is their only presence. Yes PV3 based. My tune package included 4 tunes, a tuner, the stock DynoJet tunes and Reverse shifting on the 4 tunes. $900 for everything. That includes the $400 cost for the PV3. In the car tuning world it's pretty affordable in my eyes.

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[tdhanses]

I think Facebook is their only presence. Yes PV3 based. My tune package included 4 tunes, a tuner, the stock DynoJet tunes and Reverse shifting on the 4 tunes. $900 for everything. That includes the $400 cost for the PV3. In the car tuning world it's pretty affordable in my eyes.

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Yeah that’s not bad, my last diesel pickup I tuned with ezlynk and ppei tunes was around $1k I think.

 

[kamikaze]

The reverse shifting is nice. I don't think I would ever use it. I get irritated enough as it is for how high of a gear reverse is in general. I flip flop with a tuner. I purchased the extended warranty with mine and my dealer agreed to work with me on warranty coverage for the high lifter arms, muffler, and larger tires with high lifter lift. He told me if I chose to tune it he may not be able to cover engine or transmission but he would cover everything else without a tune.

Hate to tell you but that voided the warranty... there's nothing your dealer can do because they have to send honda detailed pictures to get it approved...

My new 2021 P1k5 clutches went out and the claim was denied by Honda because I have 28" Intimidators. No other modifications. $1600 bill

 

[Rick53]

Last good warranty I've got was in 1988 on a Bass boat. All the rest are just boning you. Most smaller dealers don't even send the paper work in and just pocket the cash.

 

[Rick53]

I think Facebook is their only presence. Yes PV3 based. My tune package included 4 tunes, a tuner, the stock DynoJet tunes and Reverse shifting on the 4 tunes. $900 for everything. That includes the $400 cost for the PV3. In the car tuning world it's pretty affordable in my eyes.

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Damn, what's it like not living in fear? I ran that by the BOSS (old lady), cost me $4,000 in hospital bills and another 2 grand in dental bills. Doc says it'll take about 6 weeks to recover. But family life aside, a few years back I caught a sale on a SCT tuner for my truck that came with 3 tunes for less then $500 (works great). I don't mind paying for something, but when they're taking advantage of you it kind of Tee's me off. $900 seems high to me, but I was always on the wholesale side of things. The tunes don't cost them anymore after they've paid the program writer. I got 2 extra custom tunes for free by just talking to the guy.

 

[Robobrainiac]

Hate to tell you but that voided the warranty... there's nothing your dealer can do because they have to send honda detailed pictures to get it approved...

My new 2021 P1k5 clutches went out and the claim was denied by Honda because I have 28" Intimidators. No other modifications. $1400 bill

I am not too worried about the Honda warranty. I have the riders advantage extended warranty and I understand how extended warranties work and confirmed I would be ok with all my upgrades. I have everything pre approved by my dealer.

 

[LarryAmboy]

Damn, what's it like not living in fear? I ran that by the BOSS (old lady), cost me $4,000 in hospital bills and another 2 grand in dental bills. Doc says it'll take about 6 weeks to recover. But family life aside, a few years back I caught a sale on a SCT tuner for my truck that came with 3 tunes for less then $500 (works great). I don't mind paying for something, but when they're taking advantage of you it kind of Tee's me off. $900 seems high to me, but I was always on the wholesale side of things. The tunes don't cost them anymore after they've paid the program writer. I got 2 extra custom tunes for free by just talking to the guy.

Now that there is some funny s***


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[Robobrainiac]

Just a sneak peak. I mounted the tires today. I painted the beadlock rings yesterday and I just finished mounting the tires and got the beads torqued. It will be a couple more weeks until they are on the machine. I am going to install my high lifter control arms first.

 

[kamikaze]

Just a sneak peak. I mounted the tires today. I painted the beadlock rings yesterday and I just finished mounting the tires and got the beads torqued. It will be a couple more weeks until they are on the machine. I am going to install my high lifter control arms first.

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Looking good! I have the same tires and they are heavy! Ended up losing a lot of top end though, went from 67mph to around 55mph. it's at the honda shop now getting new clutches and they called after the test drive because they were concerned with the lack of power. I explained the tire situation, which is also why it wasn't covered under warranty... Has me debating on it all now.

 

[zmnypit]

I went from 28" outback max to 30" intimidators, no lift just SATV front arms and noticed no power loss. Cant comment on Top end as I haven't tried it. I will say they do ride a lot smoother than the outback max.

 

[Robobrainiac]

Looking good! I have the same tires and they are heavy! Ended up losing a lot of top end though, went from 67mph to around 55mph. it's at the honda shop now getting new clutches and they called after the test drive because they were concerned with the lack of power. I explained the tire situation, which is also why it wasn't covered under warranty... Has me debating on it all now.

How heavy were your wheels? My wheels are really light and the tires are heavy. I haven't had the chance yet to compare the complete assemblies together.