P700 700-2 vs 700-D vs 700-4

[jwfirebird]

deluxe also gives you nicer looking paint, wheels, shocks, and eps

 

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[alloutdoors]

To build on jwfirebird, the deluxe version is nice with EPS along with paddle/auto transmission option. I like the paddle and EPS combination and may be looking at a 700 deluxe 2 seater model this year end. I've owned the P4 and no longer need that capacity for people and I really didn't like the full auto, so I will plan to drive a deluxe this week and better leave the check book at home

 

[Backwoods]

Take it with you it will save a trip back. My wife don't like me going to dealer. I bought p5 and she didn't know till she got home.bought the 700 deluxe while she was I. Alaska now she makes sure I don't go alone.

 

[alloutdoors]

The big hold-up for me right now is waiting patiently on the Talon and just keep the little P5 for hunting, etc., and one for FUN, but who knows my Silverado may just drive me there in the morning anyway, LOL...

 

[Backwoods]

The big hold-up for me right now is waiting patiently on the Talon and just keep the little P5 for hunting, etc., and one for FUN, but who knows my Silverado may just drive me there in the morning anyway, LOL...

Yea curious about the talon I want to see one in person I'm sure there will be some talon owners on the forum as soon as their available.

 

[Russ989]

I’m a happy Pioneer 500 owner but I like the 700 quite well. Not thinking of changing or anything just trying to learn more about the pioneer lineup. Is there a difference in the standard transmission vs the deluxe transmission I know you get the auto and manual paddle shift but is that it? It’s just a three speed correct??

You would like a 700, the tranny alone was worth the upgrade in my opinion. I hated switching from my 500, but after having my 700-4 there is no going back.

 

[Russ989]

These will be my only passengers. They loved the Rubicon but didn't like the tight seating and asked me to buy the M2, now they have asked me to build a ramp because the tail gate is kind of high to jump into and out of.

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Great looking passengers you have there. There is nothing wrong with the M2, it’s just preference. I had the P5 first, then upgraded to the 700-4 so I could haul my wife, son and mother in law. Your advantage with the M2 is not having to worry about that extra roll cage and roof, driving a bus in the woods can be tiresome lol. As far a stigma, I think most people just go big when they buy a machine...same reason most of us don’t drive regular cab pickups anymore. It’s the convenience factor. Deluxe models are nice, if I had the chance to do it all over again I would probably buy the 1000-5 for more top end speed, I almost did but went with the 700-4 because of the overall width.

 

[HP5NC]

You would like a 700, the tranny alone was worth the upgrade in my opinion. I hated switching from my 500, but after having my 700-4 there is no going back.

Are you saying the 3 speed is better than the 5 speed in the P5? How is the gear ratio on these 3 speed tranny’s in the 700???

 

[Russ989]

Are you saying the 3 speed is better than the 5 speed in the P5? How is the gear ratio on these 3 speed tranny’s in the 700???

I’m not saying it’s better, they are two totally different machines. I like the smooth shifting of the 700 vs the 500, the gear ratio on the three speed is pretty well spot on in my opinion. I didn’t think my 500 shifted abnormally hard or anything but after switching to the 700 I realized the torque converter tranny was pretty awesome. The 700 also soaks up more rough terrain. I like my 700, I really liked my 500 as well...they both have a purpose for sure.

 

[Smitty335]

Thats why I bought a 7oo-4, so my dogs would have a roof over their heads also. Heck I even bought rear doors and back panel so we can all ride in a heated space in the cold months. Otherwise I would have bought a 2 seater

Pitiful! Don't ask how I know! HA!l

 

[Montecresto]

Are you saying the 3 speed is better than the 5 speed in the P5? How is the gear ratio on these 3 speed tranny’s in the 700???

The 700 badly needs a low range.

 

[Montecresto]

Pitiful! Don't ask how I know! HA!l

You’re suppose to be in bed.

 

[HP5NC]

The 700 badly needs a low range.

That’s what I was wondering

 

[Smitty335]

Take it with you it will save a trip back. My wife don't like me going to dealer. I bought p5 and she didn't know till she got home.bought the 700 deluxe while she was I. Alaska now she makes sure I don't go alone.

I pre warned my wife, asked where the check book was and told her I was going to town to do something stupid, she's used to that, just not bring a P1-5 home, first thing she said was, that was stupid, can you take it back and how much are the payments, I replied $ 0.00, well that sent her over the edge. She wouldn't even look at it or talk to me for two weeks and when she did say anything she would refer to the S x S as my S x S. One day I came home from work and she was dragging all her tools, mulch and plants in a wheel barrow working in her flower beds, I went down got MY S x S and loaded all her stuff in it and helped her with the flower beds, next day came home and there set OUR S x S (now) with all her stuff in it, HA!

 

[Smitty335]

You’re suppose to be in bed.

Took a long nap! Been eating every thing with Vitamin C I can find in the house.

 

[Russ989]

The 700 badly needs a low range.

I don’t disagree with you at all, I think it depends on what you are using it for though. I feel like my 700 will do everything I need to do and has performed well so far. Having said that, I feel like the low range would greatly increase the capability of the 700 and even make it more popular.

 

[Backwoods]

As far as low range goes it's fine. Flip it to Manuel keep it in first wind it up it will go.just don't get to silly with the tires it's fine.but low would always be nice.

 

[HP5NC]

As far as low range goes it's fine. Flip it to Manuel keep it in first wind it up it will go.just don't get to silly with the tires it's fine.

So would one say this transmission is better in deluxe form vs the standard?? For the simple fact to hold the gears longer??

 

[Mudwing]

Me personally, I enjoy the 700’s tranny. I ride in the woods a lot and she likes hanging in first most of the time, up to 13 MPH. No shifting. I’ll hit the fields and maybe catch 3rd at 34 MPH. The automatic is nice for cruising, you kinda have to learn to the work the pedal with the 3-speed, though. I wouldn’t trade my seven hund for two Talons. I would trade for three.

 

[HP5NC]

Me personally, I enjoy the 700’s tranny. I ride in the woods a lot and she likes hanging in first most of the time, up to 13 MPH. No shifting. I’ll hit the fields and maybe catch 3rd at 34 MPH. The automatic is nice for cruising, you kinda have to learn to the work the pedal with the 3-speed, though. I wouldn’t trade my seven hund for two Talons. I would trade for three.

That’s all it’s got 34 mph?! Or you saying the tranny doesn’t get into 3rd till there abouts 34 mph???

And I wouldn’t trade my P5 for any of the other offerings I don’t think. Maybe, maybeee a 700. I have no interest in the sport side. If I did I’d be on a dirt bike not a SxS. But the talon looks bada$$ and I’m sure is gonna sell well and be a hit for Honda! Now I would trade my P5 for a true rec/utility machine something like a Polaris general if Honda would come out with one! (60” width or under that and the P5 tranny! That would be sweeeet! Everyone has there taste and different needs.