ehart814
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I keep searching for someone to come out with a bolt on exhaust, but it's not happening.
After some responses I have received (HMF in particular), I have come to the conclusion that there are 2 big factors holding up the aftermarket:
1. The exhaust on the P500 is one piece, from header to tailpipe. The muffler is not removable from the header/midpipe and therefore a "slip-on" system is not possible without cutting the factory exhaust. A full system is considerably more expensive than a slip on. The Pioneer 700 has a separate muffler and header, and there are several slip-on options for that machine.
2. Either there are not as many P500's being sold as other models, or the exhaust manufacturers just don't think so. And apparently they don't believe that the "typical P500 owner" is willing to spend $500 - $700+ for a full exhaust system. I believe that if someone did offer a full system, that is how much it would cost.
I find it strange that Honda designed the exhaust to be one piece, rather than 2 or 3 pieces when many other of their machines have 2 and 3 piece exhausts. However, there must be a reason for it. If it wasn't for that one detail, it would be a very simple adjustment to an exhaust system that they already produce and they could sell it for the P500.
After some responses I have received (HMF in particular), I have come to the conclusion that there are 2 big factors holding up the aftermarket:
1. The exhaust on the P500 is one piece, from header to tailpipe. The muffler is not removable from the header/midpipe and therefore a "slip-on" system is not possible without cutting the factory exhaust. A full system is considerably more expensive than a slip on. The Pioneer 700 has a separate muffler and header, and there are several slip-on options for that machine.
2. Either there are not as many P500's being sold as other models, or the exhaust manufacturers just don't think so. And apparently they don't believe that the "typical P500 owner" is willing to spend $500 - $700+ for a full exhaust system. I believe that if someone did offer a full system, that is how much it would cost.
I find it strange that Honda designed the exhaust to be one piece, rather than 2 or 3 pieces when many other of their machines have 2 and 3 piece exhausts. However, there must be a reason for it. If it wasn't for that one detail, it would be a very simple adjustment to an exhaust system that they already produce and they could sell it for the P500.
JCart
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Not really noticed but stock exhaust is Stainless yes? Thinking one could weld on a Vee clamp between the old and new exhaust joint then it'd be a two piece.
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No sir mind you mine is all stock engine, aside from extending the intake to 1/2 way up the cab.
When I was picking up oil/filter at local dealership got a price on the stock exhaust and was surprised was like $265 CDN for the whole thing.... So if a guy hacked too much or wanted to revert back or wanted a clean pattern to bend SS pipe up without having the machine sit. Then add a slip on, that's an option for a clean build. I mean most pipes, with mufflers are in the $5-700 range so would be similar no?
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Wow, I figured it would be a lot more! might have to do this now!
Looks like its 517.00 on rocky mountian atv. OEM Parts for Motorcycles, Dirt Bikes, ATVs, and UTVs | Rocky Mountain ATV/MC
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JCart
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Hmmm perhaps I was miss quoted as 517 sounds more like it... I'll double check next time I'm in there.
I like your idea of welding a clamp on the header and attaching it to a after market exhaust.
I Put the hmf performance slip-on for the foreman on mine today. Love it. It is loud though. Amazing how well it all worked out.
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Now a power commander or some thing would be nice. Biggest difference I noticed was more low end. Less bog. Love it.
JCart
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Nice Talen, more pix? Specially how you joined it to existing pipe would be most helpful. Dobeck performance has created a fuel module for our P5's, hopefully that will enhance overall power especially low to mid range would be most excellent. Nice work by the way!
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I didnt weld on new hangers. Bent the one at tear down along with bent bracket on pipe slightly, and was able to get a bolt through. The other bracket we didn't bend at all. Just made a small extension that can be seen in last pic. As for weld. Cut the reduction off new pipe. Added some grooves to reduce to size needed and welded them shut. Stock pipe cut right at the cast. There was a big weld that needed ground down. We did remove fenders, air box, and tie for ease.
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Thanks for sharing, looks awesome and glad to hear better low end power. Check out Dobeck's fuel programmer should make a difference for sure, think so farther they're only ones to make a P5 specific one for us. Iirc it monitors O2 from exhaust pipe sensor, thinking it should be good unit with accurate metering.
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FWIW a stock pipe is $388 from MRCycles.com I have not looked elsewhere though.
2015 Honda Pioneer 500 (SXS500M 2AC) MUFFLER | MRCycles
2015 Honda Pioneer 500 (SXS500M 2AC) MUFFLER | MRCycles
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