P1000m5 FYI Dead Cylinder

[DRZRon1]

they have zero clue what they are doing and zero clue what they are telling you

good luck


fyi - every top end I’ve put together I slobbered the rings and cylinder with oil - it doesn’t cause a hesitation

 

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[Hello_Darkness]

Sounds like a bad PCM to me

 

[P1000_DLux]

Potentially bad PCM but what I don't understand is if it was the PCM from the beginning, I wouldn't think the head gasket or valve seals would have made it run alot better, when I say better, I mean it is functionally able to drive unlike when I brought it to them.

 

[DRZRon1]

Potentially bad PCM but what I don't understand is if it was the PCM from the beginning, I wouldn't think the head gasket or valve seals would have made it run alot better, when I say better, I mean it is functionally able to drive unlike when I brought it to them.

Maybe they bumped the bad injector wire while shooting the parts cannon or who knows what the PCM is doing if it’s flaking out - the Hondatech man knows his s***. since he Iives and breathes these Hondas every day

 

[RacinJasonWV]

The invoice says they replaced valve seals, which typically only causes smoke at startup on cars.

The invoice doesn’t list any replaced valves, only valve seals.

But it also says that the hesitation will go away when the valves seat to the head. They didn’t replace the valves so they shouldn’t need “seated”. And if they did replace the valves, they should have been lapped in and seated as part of the repair process.

I’m not familiar with these engines so someone correct me if I’m off base here.

 

[DRZRon1]

The invoice says they replaced valve seals, which typically only causes smoke at startup on cars.

The invoice doesn’t list any replaced valves, only valve seals.

But it also says that the hesitation will go away when the valves seat to the head. They didn’t replace the valves so they shouldn’t need “seated”. And if they did replace the valves, they should have been lapped in and seated as part of the repair process.

I’m not familiar with these engines so someone correct me if I’m off base here.

The invoice says they replaced valve seals, which typically only causes smoke at startup on cars.

The invoice doesn’t list any replaced valves, only valve seals.

But it also says that the hesitation will go away when the valves seat to the head. They didn’t replace the valves so they shouldn’t need “seated”. And if they did replace the valves, they should have been lapped in and seated as part of the repair process.

I’m not familiar with these engines so someone correct me if I’m off base here.

Not off base, engines an engine.


Hope there is some good faith from the dealer and some better diagnosis of the issue to get this machine back to square 1.

 

[P1000_DLux]

Would anyone be willing to pull there front coil spark plug boot from their machine while running to tell me what happens when they do? I'm just looking for a comparable diagnostic, I just went back and they assured me it was good, at this point I'm taking it back but I'm thinking I'm going to swap the injector plugs.

 

[ODAMO]

Would anyone be willing to pull there front coil spark plug boot from their machine while running to tell me what happens when they do?

LMAO. I did that on an old lawn mower when I was a kid “to find out what happens “
I ain’t never done it sense……

 

[Hello_Darkness]

Potentially bad PCM but what I don't understand is if it was the PCM from the beginning, I wouldn't think the head gasket or valve seals would have made it run alot better, when I say better, I mean it is functionally able to drive unlike when I brought it to them.

Your dealer is incompetent by my estimates.

 

[P1000_DLux]

Your dealer is incompetent by my estimates.

Oh %

 

[DRZRon1]

Would anyone be willing to pull there front coil spark plug boot from their machine while running to tell me what happens when they do? I'm just looking for a comparable diagnostic, I just went back and they assured me it was good, at this point I'm taking it back but I'm thinking I'm going to swap the injector plugs.

It’s gonna drop a cylinder - no sparkie - no fun .


It’s either not getting fuel - most likely - or no spark, either injector wires or pcm - lots of posts about pcm after dead battery issues

 

[P1000_DLux]

It’s gonna drop a cylinder - no sparkie - no fun .


It’s either not getting fuel - most likely - or no spark, either injector wires or pcm - lots of posts about pcm after dead battery issues

Damn it. Well I'm going to swap the injector wires I bought two from the store here. I really hope it's not the PCM but that will be next...then the only thing left to swap is the tires.

 

[0860silverado]

Damn it. Well I'm going to swap the injector wires I bought two from the store here. I really hope it's not the PCM but that will be next...then the only thing left to swap is the tires.

Injector wires are a common issue. I'm on my 3rd set! They are impossible to diagnose by any visual inspection because the way they fail is the copper inside the insulation breaks. The wire insulation still looks good and the crimps on the terminal pins are still good. I've found that after replacing the pigtails, if you ziptie them to other nearby wires, it stops the wiggling of the wire, which is what ultimately causes the conductors to fail. Since I've replaced my pigtails and secured them, I haven't had any issues with injector wires and they've been in use for about 5 years and have about 15,000 miles on them.

 

[P1000_DLux]

Injector wires are a common issue. I'm on my 3rd set! They are impossible to diagnose by any visual inspection because the way they fail is the copper inside the insulation breaks. The wire insulation still looks good and the crimps on the terminal pins are still good. I've found that after replacing the pigtails, if you ziptie them to other nearby wires, it stops the wiggling of the wire, which is what ultimately causes the conductors to fail. Since I've replaced my pigtails and secured them, I haven't had any issues with injector wires and they've been in use for about 5 years and have about 15,000 miles on them.

Did you cut the wire and solder the new ones in or did you use clips to splice? I was going to use those little slip over the wire heat gun solder tubes to install them.

 

[0860silverado]

Did you cut the wire and solder the new ones in or did you use clips to splice? I was going to use those little slip over the wire heat gun solder tubes to install them.

I used the slip on/heat gun ones.

 

[P1000_DLux]

Okay so I switch the fuel injector line. This is what it sounds like barely pressing the gas down, then accelerating some what quicker. It doesn't die but it sure sounds like it wants to when I'm barely pushing the throttle down. I have a PGM coming that I'm going to swap.

 

[P1000_DLux]

1) IAVC sensor
2) PGM-Fi

What do you think?

 

[ODAMO]

Sounds like you didn’t start it. lol. No vid

 

[P1000_DLux]

Sounds like you didn’t start it. lol. No vid

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[Neohio]

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