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P1000 Hello guys, need some help with my 2016 P1k Shifting Issues

Discussion in 'Pioneer 1000 Shop Talk' started by superman, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. superman

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    Hey guys,


    I'm trying to chase down what the dealer and I think is in electrical issue. A new clutch (2nd time) and clutch upgrade was performed. After everything was put back together the sxs will not shift correctly and seems to go into a limp mode. Does it in manual or auto. The oil pressure light eventually comes on as well. The dealer said it was showing a code P74 and they replaced the 2 shift valves. They took it apart again and did something with the oil pump and checked for blockages and cleaned valve body. They replaced the PCM and the code remained. The clutch relearn was done but it seems like the PCM is resetting and losing the relearn state. When you try and drive it, the gear indicator acts like it just went into relearn mode and goes blank then dashes. Then gets stuck in whatever gear you where in. I cleaned the 3 ground connectors and put them back with dielectric grease. I did the same for the 2 ECU/PCM or whatever they are called connectors under the driver seat. I disconnected the 2nd battery and any ties into the main battery just incase it was something shorting out from my added accessories. Been trying to research on the forum to find other people with similar issues. I'm not sure if the oil light coming on and the shifting issues are related. The dealer mentioned when the light comes on their scanner still shows the pressures are fine. One person I saw had fixed a similar issue but cleaned out the 3 oil sensors connectors underneath the clutch assembly. I guess I need to get a service manual to find where those are. Thanks for any help.
     
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    Yes, seems like another person had a similar problem where the oil pressure light would come on once warmed up and it turned out to be a missing o-ring.

    Waylan
     
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    Thanks, Yeah they did those steps. Wonder if the speed sensor on the front diff would cause these issues.
     
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    I'm not sure what's considered limp mode. I can start it up first thing when it's cold and it takes off in first then the RPM seems to go higher than normal before it shifts into 2nd. Seems to work better when I let off the gas. Then gear indicator blinks with dashes and goes blank then the number 2 starts blinking and it won't upshift or downshift. After it warms up then the oil light comes on. I can start it up and let it idle and not drive it then after 2 bars it finally shows the oil light. There's no check engine light that comes on. Maybe because the code is already stored in the computer.
     
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    #8 CumminsPusher, Nov 13, 2017
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    It was at the Honda dealer for 14 weeks. The miles were like 300 first time then like 350 second time.
     
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    They did order the new cover which I guess is part of the clutch campaign. But it still has same issue after doing the upgrade.
     
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    If I didn't have bad luck, I would have no luck at all :)
     
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    Do you know what part of the clutch the o-ring was missing from? Is this part of the normal clutch replacement or the new clutch campaign replacement?
     
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    Ok, thanks. Is that person on this forum?
     
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    Ok great. Thank you.
     
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    Still at the dealership trying to figure it out. I’ve been assigned a case manager and corporate is getting involved. Maybe they’ll buy back my machine and give me a brand new 2018 :)
     
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