P1000 Honda Introduces Pioneer 1000 Limited Edition (LE) Models with I-4WD

[Dirtstiffs-1000]

Have you added electrical accessories by chance.
Turn off the key and disconnect, then reconnect the ground wire on the battery.

 

[JACKAL]

TORQ Locker has just announced a unit for the Talon I-4WD team Honda used it at KOH. Might be a future option for P1K LE. Would be interesting to see how that would work with @Hondasxs I-4WD over ride kit.

More information here:

TORQ Locker for Talon

Torq-Masters Industries New Model: TORQ Locker Honda Talon Prototype Testing at King of the Hammers Rochester, New York, February 10, 2021 Torq-Masters Industries was the first aftermarket manufacturer to offer a patented mechanical locker for UTV’s and ATV’s. After the successful release...

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[BigOL3]

TORQ Locker has just announced a unit for the Talon I-4WD team Honda used it at KOH. Might be a future option for P1K LE. Would be interesting to see how that would work with @Hondasxs I-4WD over ride kit.

More information here:

TORQ Locker for Talon

Torq-Masters Industries New Model: TORQ Locker Honda Talon Prototype Testing at King of the Hammers Rochester, New York, February 10, 2021 Torq-Masters Industries was the first aftermarket manufacturer to offer a patented mechanical locker for UTV’s and ATV’s. After the successful release...

hondasxs.com

If I understand that correctly, the TORQ makes the front diff lock just as with the P1K???

 

[Adam490]

If I understand that correctly, the TORQ makes the front diff lock just as with the P1K???

Not in the same sense as the P1k. This is an "always on" option if I'm not mistaken, sort of like a LSD but not the same. There is no manual engagement. It does lock up like a manual locker when it kicks in.

 

[BigOL3]

Not in the same sense as the P1k. This is an "always on" option if I'm not mistaken, sort of like a LSD but not the same. There is no manual engagement. It does lock up like a manual locker when it kicks in.

You mean it is not possible to run 2WD in the easy stuff, then shift in Lock Diff when needed?

 

[Adam490]

You mean it is not possible to run 2WD in the easy stuff, then shift in Lock Diff when needed?

Not in the same fashion you're thinking of with a manual selection like the P1k non-LE. Even in 2WD the front diff is going to have some drag to it when turning since you can't really "disengage" it.

 

[DG Rider]

Not in the same fashion you're thinking of with a manual selection like the P1k non-LE. Even in 2WD the front diff is going to have some drag to it when turning since you can't really "disengage" it.

Seems like the solution is a selectable front locker.

 

[Adam490]

Seems like the solution is a selectable front locker.

I agree, but they've used diffs like these in trucks forever. I think it would be great out trail riding but would suck if you ran a lot of blacktop. Great to see an option available either way.

 

[DG Rider]

I agree, but they've used diffs like these in trucks forever. I think it would be great out trail riding but would suck if you ran a lot of blacktop. Great to see an option available either way.

I was really just giving Honda s***. I mean...the company that seemed to deny that locking front diffs were standard equipment for 10-15 years before they finally broke down and did it, then goes out and jumps the shark with I4wd? If people want I4wd, make it for them, but give the lower end model a good old selectable locker like you did with the pioneer 1000/700.

 

[Adam490]

I was really just giving Honda s***. I mean...the company that seemed to deny that locking front diffs were standard equipment for 10-15 years before they finally broke down and did it, then goes out and jumps the shark with I4wd? If people want I4wd, make it for them, but give the lower end model a good old selectable locker like you did with the pioneer 1000/700.

I figured that was what you were playing at, lol

 

[Kilo427]

But why would you need the locker?! I4wd is good for 99% of the time, why would a demand for a locker even be present? ..... unless

 

[delfinog]

has anyone added a lift to there LE? If so, what kind, how much lift and did you get better axels to support. Thanks, also I will be looking into getting those brake lines.

 

[Deleted member 47331]

What can I-4WD do that a skilled driver and a good set of lockers can't? And what's the point of hill start assist, when the driver can use both feet to manage the brake/gas to prevent rollback? Better yet, why not simply eliminate all these fancy gadgets and use a good old fashioned stick shift transmission?

 

[J80]

What can I-4WD do that a skilled driver and a good set of lockers can't? And what's the point of hill start assist, when the driver can use both feet to manage the brake/gas to prevent rollback? Better yet, why not simply eliminate all these fancy gadgets and use a good old fashioned stick shift transmission?

Obviously they think you can’t drive

 

[CumminsPusher]

What can I-4WD do that a skilled driver and a good set of lockers can't? And what's the point of hill start assist, when the driver can use both feet to manage the brake/gas to prevent rollback? Better yet, why not simply eliminate all these fancy gadgets and use a good old fashioned stick shift transmission?

I will agree with you on this, except the stick shift. That’d just be a b**** where I ride, be a long day and the time it takes in between gears would kill of some momentum, not engine brake as fast and be rough on ya by end of day. Dct does work well for sxs.

 

[lee]

What can I-4WD do that a skilled driver and a good set of lockers can't? And what's the point of hill start assist, when the driver can use both feet to manage the brake/gas to prevent rollback? Better yet, why not simply eliminate all these fancy gadgets and use a good old fashioned stick shift transmission?

I-4wd can turn on a dime in sketchy situations.
Or, save you a lot of digging/ winching when you let you wife drive.

 

[Deleted member 47331]

I will agree with you on this, except the stick shift. That’d just be a b**** where I ride, be a long day and the time it takes in between gears would kill of some momentum, not engine brake as fast and be rough on ya by end of day. Dct does work well for sxs.

I won't disagree with your assessment because a stick shift certainly isn't right for all situations, but they can be a heck of a lot more fun to drive sometimes. The DCT and paddle shifters compensate to a certain degree, but it's just not the same experience.

 

[CumminsPusher]

I won't disagree with your assessment because a stick shift certainly isn't right for all situations, but they can be a heck of a lot more fun to drive sometimes. The DCT and paddle shifters compensate to a certain degree, but it's just not the same experience.

Feels much better then those rubber bands to drive😉

 

[Deleted member 47331]

Feels much better then those rubber bands to drive

ABSOLUTELY!!! I've owned one rubber band machine, and it will be my last.