P500 Honda pioneer 500 2019 versus 2018? Any wheel question

[HondaHomer]

Hi there,
I am looking to get a pioneer 500 and was wondering if there was any benefit of getting a 2019 versus a 2018? I am also looking at putting 27” ripsaws all the way around on 14” 5+2 rims. Will this keep the width at 50 for trails and if not, why not use a 4+3 offset? Thanks for the info!

 

[Chooglin]

Hi there,
I am looking to get a pioneer 500 and was wondering if there was any benefit of getting a 2019 versus a 2018? I am also looking at putting 27” ripsaws all the way around on 14” 5+2 rims. Will this keep the width at 50 for trails and if not, why not use a 4+3 offset? Thanks for the info!

There is no difference in a 2018 vs 2019 besides color choice. You could get a better price on a leftover 2018 !

5+2 will be over 50" and the 4+3 would be a good choice , it would provide more stability being that you are moving up in height with the taller tires.

 

[trigger]

Hi there,
I am looking to get a pioneer 500 and was wondering if there was any benefit of getting a 2019 versus a 2018? I am also looking at putting 27” ripsaws all the way around on 14” 5+2 rims. Will this keep the width at 50 for trails and if not, why not use a 4+3 offset? Thanks for the info!

You don't ride much sand do you?

 

[HondaHomer]

There is no difference in a 2018 vs 2019 besides color choice. You could get a better price on a leftover 2018 !

5+2 will be over 50" and the 4+3 would be a good choice , it would provide more stability being that you are moving up in height with the taller tires.

If I go 4+3, any pro/con to wheel spacers? Size spacers? Thanks

 

[HondaHomer]

You don't ride much sand do you?

Here in Florida we have sandy areas, but no dunes like out West

 

[HondaHomer]

If I go 4+3, any pro/con to wheel spacers? Size spacers? Thanks

What about the anti sway bar? Keep or ditch?

 

[trigger]

Here in Florida we have sandy areas, but no dunes like out West

Just sayin', Rip Saws are great for mud but suck in sugar sand.

 

[Chooglin]

If I go 4+3, any pro/con to wheel spacers? Size spacers? Thanks

If I was running 4+3 wheels , I wouldn't bother with spacers , but it wouldn't hurt if you did.

I am running 26" tires with 5+2 wheels , 1.00" spacer up front and 1 1/2" spacers in the rear. This setup feels pretty stable to me.

I would ditch the anti-sway bar after you get to know the machine a little better. After you feel comfortable with the machine , I say ditch it!

 

[Chooglin]

I also feel that if you ride within the limit's of this machine , you should feel pretty comfortable with it. If you are one that drives on the "crazy side" you will most likely flop it on its side eventually!

 

[HondaHomer]

If I was running 4+3 wheels , I wouldn't bother with spacers , but it wouldn't hurt if you did.

I am running 26" tires with 5+2 wheels , 1.00" spacer up front and 1 1/2" spacers in the rear. This setup feels pretty stable to me.

I would ditch the anti-sway bar after you get to know the machine a little better. After you feel comfortable with the machine , I say ditch it!

My understanding is the difference between between 5+2 and the 4+3 is that the wheel will sit one inch wider out from the mounting point. If that is true, then using the 4+3 is equal to using the 5+2 with 1” spacers? Sorry if the questions seem dumb, but just wrapping my head around this subject! Thanks!

 

[Chooglin]

My understanding is the difference between between 5+2 and the 4+3 is that the wheel will sit one inch wider out from the mounting point. If that is true, then using the 4+3 is equal to using the 5+2 with 1” spacers? Sorry if the questions seem dumb, but just wrapping my head around this subject! Thanks!

That is correct!

 

[Mudder]

14 inch 5-2 rims with 27 bighorn style tires run 54 inches wide on my 2017.

 

[PistolPeteSTL]

I'm running 14x7, 4+3 in front with 9" wide tires and 14x8, 4+4 in rear with 11" tires and my width measures 56" in front and 58" in back. Using 5+2 wheels should knock 2" front and 4" rear off those measurements, but best to measure. Individual tires at different pressures will likely measure different.

 

[Alan aka Davinci]

Hi there,
I am looking to get a pioneer 500 and was wondering if there was any benefit of getting a 2019 versus a 2018? I am also looking at putting 27” ripsaws all the way around on 14” 5+2 rims. Will this keep the width at 50 for trails and if not, why not use a 4+3 offset? Thanks for the info!

Problem with 27's on a P5 that size will start stealing power. I stayed with 25 Ripsaws for that very reason but then again here in Colorado we deal with power robbing altitude.

 

[AlR]

Problem with 27's on a P5 that size will start stealing power. I stayed with 25 Ripsaws for that very reason but then again here in Colorado we deal with power robbing altitude.

I agree with the above. I put 26" Roctanes (9 front & 11 rear) on the stock rims. That's about the max diameter I'd want to put on the P5 for the general riding I do. I have 1" spacers front and back. The tires are ALOT bigger than stock and look appropriately sized for the machine. The Roctanes are a heavier tire, but that's what I need for the brutal shot-rock that I ride on 70% of the time. What I dislike is getting flats that I can't plug in the field. It's always doable to ride back on a flat tire... but you can severely wear or ruin a tire depending on the miles you need to do. There is no 'right' combination of tires, wheels and spacers. Whatever you get will be awesome!
Al

 

[Russ989]

There is no difference in a 2018 vs 2019 besides color choice. You could get a better price on a leftover 2018 !

5+2 will be over 50" and the 4+3 would be a good choice , it would provide more stability being that you are moving up in height with the taller tires.

X2 on getting a holdover, both of my pioneers were holdover units and I got a better deal on the purchase price because everyone wants that newest model year even though they are exactly the same typically.

 

[Russ989]

My understanding is the difference between between 5+2 and the 4+3 is that the wheel will sit one inch wider out from the mounting point. If that is true, then using the 4+3 is equal to using the 5+2 with 1” spacers? Sorry if the questions seem dumb, but just wrapping my head around this subject! Thanks!

 

[Deleted member 3748]

Just sayin', Rip Saws are great for mud but suck in sugar sand.

Don't sell the Ripsaws short, @trigger ! They suck in ALL types of sand.

 

[Russ989]

Don't sell the Ripsaws short, @trigger ! They suck in ALL types of sand.

Sedona Ripsaws are the official tire of @PistonHonda lol.

 

[trigger]

Don't sell the Ripsaws short, @trigger ! They suck in ALL types of sand.

Lmao! I wanted those tires bad when you showed up that morning. Had tire envy all day until...

The Hill!