Introducing Honda's All-New Pioneer 500

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[parsehtml]<h2>Specifications</h2>
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<h4 class="engine">ENGINE</h4>
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<th scope="row">Engine Type</th>
<td>475cc liquid cooled single cylinder four-stroke</td>
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<th scope="row">Bore And Stroke</th>
<td>92.0mm x 71.5mm</td>
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<th scope="row">Compression Ratio</th>
<td>9.5:1</td>
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<th scope="row">Induction</th>
<td>Electronic fuel injection (PGM-FI), 36mm throttle body</td>
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<th scope="row">Ignition</th>
<td>Full-transistorized type with electronic advance</td>
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<h4 class="drive-train">DRIVE TRAIN</h4>
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<th scope="row">Clutch</th>
<td>Automatic</td>
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<th scope="row">Transmission</th>
<td>Electric-shift five-speed with reverse (First gear is L = LOW)</td>
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<th scope="row">Driveline</th>
<td>Direct front and rear driveshafts</td>
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<h4 class="chassis-suspension-brakes">CHASSIS / SUSPENSION / BRAKES</h4>
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<th scope="row">Front Suspension</th>
<td>Independent double-wishbone; 5.9 inches travel</td>
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<td>Independent double-wishbone with preload adjustablility; 5.9 inches travel</td>
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<th scope="row">Front Brake</th>
<td>Dual hydraulic 190mm discs</td>
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<td>200mm hydraulic disc</td>
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<th scope="row">Front Tires</th>
<td>24 x 8-12</td>
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<td>24 x 10-12</td>
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<h4 class="dimensions">DIMENSIONS</h4>
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<th scope="row">Length</th>
<td>102.5 inches</td>
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<th scope="row">Width</th>
<td>50.0 inches</td>
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<th scope="row">Height</th>
<td>72.4 inches</td>
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<th scope="row">Wheelbase</th>
<td>73.1 inches</td>
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<th scope="row">Towing Capacity</th>
<td>1000 pounds</td>
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<th scope="row">Ground Clearance</th>
<td>9.6 inches</td>
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<th scope="row">Turning Radius</th>
<td>12.8 feet</td>
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<td>1010 pounds - Includes all standard equipment, required fluids and full
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<th scope="row">Fuel Capacity</th>
<td>4.1 gallons, including 1.1-gallon reserve</td>
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<th scope="row">Note</th>
<td>Recommended for Drivers 16 years of age and older.</td>
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<th scope="row">Available Colors</th>
<td>Red, Olive, Yellow, Honda Phantom Camo&trade;</td>
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<th scope="row">Model Id</th>
<td>SXS500M2F</td>
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[fishin2Dmax]

That's conservative Honda! While definitely not a high performance Sport SXS, there is a good market segment for 50" machines. The paddle shifter looks to be the differentiator on this machine and something I wished was offered on the 700's. The 50" machine is also priced right and should do very well! I guess I'll continue waiting for my dream high performance SXS from Honda.

 

[tbocfo]

Price?

 

[fishin2Dmax]

The list price for the Pioneer is $8495

 

[DG Rider]

This company is totally disconnected from the market.

24"' tires?
6" of suspension?
No diff lock?

What a total joke. Wayne Lambert should be fired.

 

[Clarky]

Anyone else think it's kinda ugly looking? The wheelwell gap in the front is like twice as high as the back.

 

[ohanacreek]

Looks like they squished a 700, but the Ranger 500 looks like they squished a 700. When you shrink something on the outside but leave the inside the same proportions are off. There are common proportions/ratios that all people find visually pleasing.

 

[ksss]

This company is totally disconnected from the market.

24"' tires?
6" of suspension?
No diff lock?

What a total joke. Wayne Lambert should be fired.

Totally agree,

You wait 6 years to enter the 50" SXS market, and this is what you come to market with? Where is the Hondamatic type tranny? <500 cc displacement? Really? <6" of travel on the suspension? Are you kidding me! Appearance: There is zero symmetry with this machine, it looks like a Rubicon rear end was grafted to a SXS front end. The wheel gap front to back looks disproportionate. Five speed tranny with only 475 CC displacement on a machine that weighs just over 1000 pounds? That is not enough gearing, and too little displacement.

This is nothing like I was expecting to see in this market from Honda. If your going to wait so long to enter the market, you damn well better get it right. Lets look at who this "should" have been designed for. It is a 50" machine, so that should indicate it is primarily a trail machine. What is important in running trails? I think most would agree that suspension travel, ground clearance, locking diffs, power steering, a versatile rack system for the back, big enough engine so that when you get to high elevations (such as Idaho where I live) that you still have some power available at 8-11K feet. As I mentioned above, Honda you gave it 475 CC and only five speed tranny, neither is sufficient. Looking at the advertisement with the rack filled with fencing supplies tells me they don't get this segment. If we want to primarily work out of the machine we would get a larger Pioneer, 50" is not necessary for any Farm/Ranch scenerio. SET IT UP FOR TRAIL RIDING FIRST, and versatile enough to also be able to work out of second. Hopefully is it as dependable as we have come to expect from Honda, it will likely be the only feature that makes these salable. It certainly is not on its spec sheet which in this segment, doesn't even come close to the competition.

I was waiting "impatiently" for this machine and to get out of my RZR. That is not going to happen with this model. They completely missed the market with this machine. I am not sure who this was designed for, its not a workhorse and it certainly is not a good trail machine. O well guess I will continue to try and make friends with my Polaris.

 

[G Dinkins]

I am considering the Pioneer 500, but the diff lock missing concerns me.
Everything else really fits the my needs.
I would like to see a add on enclosed box available for the rear platform.

 

[moto657]

This company is totally disconnected from the market.

24"' tires?
6" of suspension?
No diff lock?

What a total joke. Wayne Lambert should be fired.

I'm still here. Thanks for ALL of the discussions about the Pioneers. Keep it up.
27" tires
10+" of suspension
Front and Rear Diff lock
999cc
6Speed DCT
http://powersports.honda.com/2016/pioneer-1000-5.aspx

I am an American Honda Motor Co. employee and the views expressed in this post are my own.
Wayne Lambert

 

[Hondasxs]

Boom

 

[ohanacreek]

I'm still here. Thanks for ALL of the discussions about the Pioneers. Keep it up.
27" tires
10+" of suspension
Front and Rear Diff lock
999cc
6Speed DCT
http://powersports.honda.com/2016/pioneer-1000-5.aspx

I am an American Honda Motor Co. employee and the views expressed in this post are my own.
Wayne Lambert

Wayne welcome to the forum, thanks to all the Honda employees that read the forums and listen to what we want.

Thanks to you and the rest of the Pioneer development team. Great job! As soon as you guys release the 1000-5 I'll be getting one its exactly what I've been wanting and asking for. My only complaint is I can't pick one up tomorrow!

 

[ButchersHook]

Wayne, has a memo been sent out yet to the guys on the floor that Sat overtime is now mandatory?! Called my dealer today, my names on the first white 3 seater, wife wants to keep the 700-4 for her and her friends to use!

 

[bobbyhill]

@moto657 Glad to hear from you Wayne!