P500 Oil/Filter

[THeck]

Just went over 109 miles and figured I’d go ahead and change oil and filter. I just bought a gram filter (6015) at Walmart and it says it fits pioneer too. Would you use this filter? What type oil? Thanks

 

[Admin]

 

[trigger]

IMO, first oil change, I'd recommend all Honda oem. Second oil change, Honda filter and full synthetic.

 

[THeck]

Thanks for advice. I’m all new to s x s.

 

[HondaTech]

The problem with aftermarket filters is they can installed backwards, which starves the top end of oil.

Honda filters are marked outside and have a lip on the P500 that won't allow it to be installed in reverse.

 

[tomcj2]

Filters are cheap compared to major engine work. I use aftermarket filters (Wix or NAPA) in my cars but I don't cheap out on the Pioneer

 

[THeck]

We appreciate the good advice. I’ll go with the Honda filter and oil.

 

[THeck]

Do you always use new o rings during oil change? Do you torque the bolts? I never have on ATVs but probably should have. But I never had trouble. Where is the beat place to get torque wrench? Thanks

 

[DG Rider]

Do you always use new o rings during oil change? Do you torque the bolts? I never have on ATVs but probably should have. But I never had trouble. Where is the beat place to get torque wrench? Thanks

I will change the o rings every few changes, but keep them on hand in case there is an issue. Seems like new ones are more prone to getting nicked. Make sure you lube them with oil.

The general consensus is that the filter cover bolts torque from Honda is too high, and a few members have snapped them while torquing. I just use the T.F.A.R. method (that feels about right).

 

[CID]

Torque wrenches are overrated and break as many bolts as they tighten correctly. Used on small fasteners, they're too long, it's impossible to 'feel' what's happening. When I was about 10, my Dad told me when working on my bicycle - "Pay attention, you can feel when it's getting tight." The only time I use a torque wrench is for critical assemblies like engines and brake calipers.

Also new to SxSs, I'll be using Honda filters.

 

[sarc201]

Anyone know of a dealer or dealers that sell filters, o-rings, oil, or heck any parts online at a discount?

 

[sarc201]

IMO, first oil change, I'd recommend all Honda oem. Second oil change, Honda filter and full synthetic.

Out of curiosity, what synthetic do you use in your SxS?

 

[THeck]

Thanks for the replies. I change oil in our vehicles and motorcycles and have always just used the TFAR method ands haven’t had any problems. Glad I learned that method had a name. Lol

 

[THeck]

I just ordered Honda oil and filter from amazon.

 

[NTCPrezJB]

Thanks for the replies. I change oil in our vehicles and motorcycles and have always just used the TFAR method ands haven’t had any problems. Glad I learned that method had a name. Lol

TFAR and TooFar are not all that far apart for some so definitely avoid apprentice-tight. If it leaks you can always give it another eek of a turn. If you go TooFar things are a pita and often costly in a hurry.

 

[trigger]

Out of curiosity, what synthetic do you use in your SxS?

I was using Royal Purple Max Cycle but couldn't find it for the last oil change, maybe they quit making it? So I went with Honda full synthetic, not cheap but I like knowing it has the good sh** running through it.

 

[Todd627]

Out of curiosity, what synthetic do you use in your SxS?

 

[sarc201]

👍

 

[trigger]

Just make sure whatever you use is JASO compliant.

 

[WYcoyote]

Rotella T6

 

[NitroxDiver]

I have used the Fram filter several times with no issues. It looks just like the Honda filter . I always used Honda oil and filters for years but but my local dealer is Ride Now in Concord and I’m not buying anything from them. I have switched over to valvoline and Fram as I can pick it up at the auto parts or Walmart.