Rear Axle stuck

[jtucker]

I am working on a buddies 2019 Talon 1000R. He has a popping in the rear and I was going to take the rear axles out and grease the splines on the axles. The axles are stuck and we tried to pry them out and it didnt work so we made a axle slide hammer puller and it is not working DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS

 

[Admin]

 

[HondaTech]

If it's popping, greasing anything isn't going to work, the axle will need replaced.

Get the inner joint apart and clean the inner cup out

Find a nut that threads onto the end of the slide hammer

Weld nut into cup

Use slid hammer to pull cup out of diff

It's the only way I've had any luck

 

[jtucker]

We built this axle puller and it has bent 1/2 steel, we had a pretty good bite on it

 

[Remington]

If it's popping, greasing anything isn't going to work, the axle will need replaced.

 

[CID]

Russel shows how he got the axles to release from the diff and it worked for me. I think the service manual says the same thing, hit it with a long screwdriver from the opposite side (no, you can't hit it straight on, your angle will be about 45*). I used a Harbor Freight 15-1/2" long prybar. Don't pry against the diff, you could damage the seal.

I saw a guy pull a RZR axle straight out by hand but when I tried that, the circlip inside the CV joint separated, not the one in the diff - so I had to cut the boot apart to remove the axle and then hammer the last of the CV out of the diff. Russel puts text in the video - Do Not Jerk The Axle Out Of The Diff.

One of these -

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[Dankathy]

So, why is it wrong to just push the axle in, the jerk it out? Only way I've ever seen it done🤔

 

[HondaTech]

So, why is it wrong to just push the axle in, the jerk it out? Only way I've ever seen it done🤔

That usually works, but the rears have been a pain in the ass from time to time on Talons.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

My rear axles are 100 times easier to remove than the fronts.

 

[jtucker]

I put the forklift against the frame and pulled tight and tried tapping on it, we tried tapping on it as we turned it, and we also tried putting an air chisel with blunt end on it to vibrate it out and nothing is working

 

[Neohio]

Any chance something like this will/might work?
I am not familiar with how much room in on a Talon diff.

 

[CID]

I put the forklift against the frame and pulled tight and tried tapping on it, we tried tapping on it as we turned it, and we also tried putting an air chisel with blunt end on it to vibrate it out and nothing is working

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I had to give the prybar (post #3) a few really good hits to get mine loose (idea shown in the video). You're working in a well-equipped shop, I'd copy the slide hammer in post #3.

 

[HondaTech]

I'm telling you find a nut the same size as your slide hammer threads

Weld that nut into the cup

Slide hammer it out

It's the only way I've gotten them out when there this stuck

 

[jtucker]

we got it out we pushed it in as far as it would go and then hit the puller where the slide hammer attaches with a hammer as hard as we could and it came out
Thanks for all the help and suggestions

 

[PhilCod]

Wow, looks like I'm up for a fight. Trying to get mine out right now. Slit a inside boot on a rear axle.

 

[jtucker]

Yes good luck

 

[PhilCod]

Any chance something like this will/might work?
I am not familiar with how much room in on a Talon diff.

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Not enough room to slide the black piece in there.

 

[CID]

Not enough room to slide the black piece in there.

It doesn't have to get between the CV and diff, the 'black piece' jaw is wide enough to straddle the CV taper. The grabbing U shape only has to be deep enough to get past the centerline of the CV diameter on the tapered surface.

 

[PhilCod]

It doesn't have to get between the CV and diff, the 'black piece' jaw is wide enough to straddle the CV taper. The grabbing U shape only has to be deep enough to get past the centerline of the CV diameter on the tapered surface.

Yea, its too tight for that. The opening isn't wide enough to get it back there. But I work in the steel industry. I am going to have one of my customers laser cut one that will work for the future needs

 

[jtucker]

the puller that I posted in this thread is what we got mine out with. Just didn't use the slide hammer we hit it with a sledge hammer

 

[PhilCod]

The welded nut works. Only took 3 slides with the slide hammer. Now my buddy who welds is also an engineer at Cummins so he felt it was best to weld a big bolt in the back of the joint, then weld a large nut on that and then the slide hammer nut inside it. So it was over kill but it works.