P1000 Second Trail Ride with P1k AAR, Added Soft Top Issues 4/18

Johnny_C

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Hello,
We went to Royal Blue this past weekend, and I wanted
to post here general thoughts & findings. I will try to
keep this organized, but I think it will be more like
rambling. I will post photo's as needed.

Conditions & time:
We rode Friday afternoon, all day
Saturday, & Sunday morning until 2pm.
Mostly Sunny in the upper 40's to the
the mid 50's. About 1 hour of light rain
on Saturday.

Who road what:
The was a 4 place Polaris, a 4 seat
Teryx, a Rhino, and a 2 seat Arctic
Cat & our P1k3 with deluxe wheels,
hard top, soft sides & back, Terra 4500,
led light cubes, front & rear.

First off, the P1k performed flawlessly.
No clutch shuddering. I did find that I
I really liked manual shifting in AT when
climbing & descending rolling hills
at speed & I liked MT when climbing
steep or technical terrain. In AT I
didn't like how it shifted so often
at lower speeds & steep, crawling
terrain. I love them paddles!

The split windshield & soft doors &
soft back were wonderfully adaptable
to our changing conditions. Too hot,
zip open the windows, and or open the
windshield & vice versa. Also being so
enclosed, we did not get as muddy (us
or our clothes) as the other riders, or
wet from the rain. We were very
comfortable the whole trip.

A lot of the trails had mud bogs on the
trails from time to time. I really hated to
swim through them with a new machine,
but you can't back up & that's what they
are built for. We did notice that steam
would roll up from behind the seat when
we would hit water puddles or streams at
speed, which would fog up the glass
& sides, but it would quickly dissipate
by zipping open a side window, or if the
windshield was open.

We did climb a few deeply rutted steep
climbs. On the first one, the Polaris was
up front. He high centered on several
attempts, but the rest of us drove up it
with no issues. Others in the group
commented on how the P1k had better
ground clearance than anyone else.
I did scrape a rock or 2, but not much.
Even though this is my first 4 wheeler,
I know how to pick a line on the trail.
I enjoy driving & I believe good driving
is an art, no matter how many wheels,
or on dirt or asphalt.

We went to the top of the world, and
deeply wanted to climb the last, left most
trail, but I thought it scare my wife to
much, so I didn't, but a P1k5, that was
there did. He had no issues with it, other
that his wife was not happy when she
got out! Ha!

I did add a 2" tall block to go under my
heel. I am glad I did. I would occasionally
find myself driving with my heel on the
floor, but it did not take long for my ankle
to remind of the block. It is about 2" high,
2.5" wide & about 4" front to back. It is
large enough for the put the center of
my foot on it & have a little steady pressure
on the pedal, and control was with minimal
flexing of my foot. It is a must have in my
book. I will post a photo of it here when I
can.

I did not need the winch & lights, but I am
sure I will some day.

I will add Mud Busters & UHMW skid plates
soon.


All in all, I am super happy with the P1k.
It did everything I asked of it without
question. And I know it is capable of
a lot more. I would like to do more of
the steep terrain, technical climbs, rock
crawling, when we go back, but since
this was our first trip there, I just
followed along with the others that
had been there before.

A couple of interesting things, not
trail related happened, that I want
to mention.

We purchased our permits at a Walmart
just south of Pioneer. The employee
was trying to sell small game permits
to save us some money, but we insisted
on the 071 & 093 that are listed on the
RB website. It was good thing. A ranger
stopped us Friday night & said we would
have had $300 in fines, if didn't buy what
we did.

Also, a HP officer was pulling random
4 wheelers, including someone in our
group to say that we are supposed to
have tags & insurance for driving on
the road. That would have been a
real issue for us, as we were staying
across the highway. After his shift
was over, we didn't see anyone else
being hassled. I don't think the local
businesses would be to happy about
him hassling the tourists!

I will continue to add more comments as
I think of them, or as people ask questions.
John
 
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That's a great review. Thank you, it help is prepare for the group ride.
 
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Thank you very much this was a fun review to read.
I would be interested in a photo of your gas pedal foot block and how installed when ever you have time as I am a short bastard being a hair south of 5' 5".
 
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I was also wanting pictures of your block. I'm 5'9" and was wondering how tall are you?
Great review
 
Johnny_C

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Other things I will add.

Larger storage box in the bed.
I had a tool box that contained
my recovery items quite well,
but I would like some storage
for our helmets when aren't
wearing them.

I'll add a floor mat. I will
probably buy a piece of
runner from Lowes & cut it
to fit.

Also, a mat to go in the bed.

It will be easier to take these out
to wash, than wash out the bed &
floor area.

Spare tire & mount for it, along
with a jack. I would like to build
a custom swing out to hold a
rotopax gas can, or two.


I'll add more thoughts as they
reoccur to me.

John
 
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Another point of interest.

Some owners have been complaining
about the noise level in the cab with
the hard top. We noticed we could
easily talk while riding at trail speeds,
say under 20 mph, with our full face
helmets on, but we did have to raise
our voices some. Very doable.

With our helmets off, it was no
problem at all.

John
 
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I'm with you on the mud busters. I just ordered some for the rear after seeing how much stuff blows up between the door and fenderwell on my p1k-5
 
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I am also interested in the block modification, as the muscles on top of my foot get wore out after a day of riding and trying to keep my foot "a float" on the peddle through rough terrain.
 
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I'll try to get some pics posted
asap.

John

I am also interested in the block modification, as the muscles on top of my foot get wore out after a day of riding and trying to keep my foot "a float" on the peddle through rough terrain.
 
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I will get some photo's posted for
the above requests, I promise.

I did finally get to clean it Saturday.
The dried dirt came off pretty well
with just a garden hose & spray nozzle
set on jet. I did have to help a lot of it
off using my hand, like directly above
the tires. it was about 1" thick in some
places. Worked pretty steady for about
an hour. I tilted the bed to the rear end
clean, as well as, the bottom of the bed.
I did not use a pressure washer, at all, but
I did coat the fender wells with Armour all
before we left on the trip.

I also removed the seat to clean out the
mid section, also.

After that I did a regular hand wash of the
exterior.

Another thing I meant to have mentioned,
is that the Velcro door straps worked just
fine for the trip. About 2.5 hours one way.
I did have the drivers side pop open just
after we got on the highway, but after
that, everything was ok. I towed it with
the windshield down & the side & rear
panels zipped shut.

I had no evidence of damage from flutter
on any of the soft panels. We drove the
interstate at 70 mph, mostly, and a few
time faster than that.

Later!

John
 
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I finally got to take some pics of the
latest additions. Attached is a photo
of the heel block I added, as well as,
the heat shield I added under the seat,
yesterday.

I took the block out, and painted the
bracket black. I used some push rivets
because I couldn't get under the floor
in that area without removing a skid
plate to use screws & nuts. I used my
phone to a video as best I could, to
ensure I wasn't going to drill into a wire
harness or oil hose, etc.

Later!

John

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Is that heat shield material your using the stick on kind or the kind you can bend into place and its just sitting on top of the other stuff?
 
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I finally got to take some pics of the
latest additions. Attached is a photo
of the heel block I added, as well as,
the heat shield I added under the seat,
yesterday.

I took the block out, and painted the
bracket black. I used some push rivets
because I couldn't get under the floor
in that area without removing a skid
plate to use screws & nuts. I used my
phone to a video as best I could, to
ensure I wasn't going to drill into a wire
harness or oil hose, etc.

Later!

John

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Don't forget matching helmets, don't want the ole Beano to cook :D
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Cash,
Its a rolled goods product I bought at
Lowe's a few years ago. It's basically
bubble wrap sandwiched with metalized
foil. No adhesive. I just cut holes & slots
for the seat latch & anchor points, and I'm
letting the seat hold it in place against
the seat support frame.

I report back how well it does. We have
another trip to Pioneer schedules again
in a few weeks.

John

Is that heat shield material your using the stick on kind or the kind you can bend into place and its just sitting on top of the other stuff?
 
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Cash,
Its a rolled goods product I bought at
Lowe's a few years ago. It's basically
bubble wrap sandwiched with metalized
foil. No adhesive. I just cut holes & slots
for the seat latch & anchor points, and I'm
letting the seat hold it in place against
the seat support frame.

I report back how well it does. We have
another trip to Pioneer schedules again
in a few weeks.

John
Nice. I'm a block from Summit Racing at work and I remember buying something similar for my RZR when the first 900's were coming out and catching on fire. I bet that stuff will work pretty darn good.
 
Johnny_C

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Hello,
We were back at RB, this past weekend. I wanted to
be there for the takeover, but what's a week between
friends!

The bubble wrap liner helped a lot for keeping the heat
out of the cab. It was in the 70's on Saturday, so it still
was pretty warm in there. WIth the split windshield, I
didn't want to open the rear window, as I knew we would
have a real dust problem. The dust wasn't too bad on the
trails, but the roads were pretty bad.

The main thing I wanted to update was the issues we
had on this trip with the doors. The last trip to
RB was great, as the velcro straps worked just fine
to keep the doors from flapping or departing. This
time the velcro on the right door kept failing to
stay in place. When I would pull out on the door, it
would just slide loose. I started to take the hard doors
off in welcome center, but the bolts would not budge.
I guess they used some permanent locktite, but they
would not move. The I decided to to take off the
soft doors. More problems there.

The lower pairs of screws on the doors have nut
plates inside the doors. These weren't a problem.
What I discovered was the dealer used some
collapsible threaded inserts for the top pairs.
But what I found was they didn't install them
correctly. They didn't collapse them. There were
being held in place by the lower screws. So I got
the doors off for the rest of the trip. I rolled the
back window up, and had no other issues while
trailering.

I was up early on Saturday to reinstall the soft
doors, hoping I could use them to keep the dust
out, but even with the new seat liner, it was too
hot, so the windows remained rolled completely
down on the trails, and up, more or less on the
roads.

However, the collapsible inserts were not something
I could make work in the parking lot, but I did find
out the just the lower pairs were more than adequate
for trail use, so I won't bother with the inserts.

With summer here, I intend to leave the soft doors
off. I will leave the soft back installed, and roll the
window up or down as needed.

As for the trails, I really enjoyed the steep trail behind
the church at the dog pound. It was a hoot. But not
something that I would want to try after any rain.

The P1k performed as expected, and everyone in my
group was impressed with it it.

That's all for now.

John
 
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