Talon front intake

[CumminsPusher]

Short version - maybe ...

I took friends for rides, both of us wearing earmuffs. I dropped the muffs to say something at ~25 mph and was stunned at the mechanical noise the Talon makes, it was painful. I immediately gave up on any conversation. It surprised me because I'm usually wearing earplugs inside my helmet.

Snorkel - behind the passenger seat, no rear window - at easy cruising speeds, I don't notice 'much' intake noise but there is a drone. When I'm trying to push the skinny pedal through the radiator, it 'might' get really noisy but I'm pretty dang preoccupied under those conditions, so the intake drone takes a back seat. Regardless, I can't ride in a Talon without hearing protection and a helmet alone isn't enough.

I copied Hondabob's snorkel idea because it keeps the goofy stock intake plenum. I'm not sure if it's for tuning or noise control, maybe both but I didn't want to remove it for either reason.

The goofy intake plenum, stock config -
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Modded for the snorkel riser -
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Outside -
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Have you ran rear window?

 

[Admin]

 

[Smitty335]

Short version - maybe ...

I took friends for rides, both of us wearing earmuffs. I dropped the muffs to say something at ~25 mph and was stunned at the mechanical noise the Talon makes, it was painful. I immediately gave up on any conversation. It surprised me because I'm usually wearing earplugs inside my helmet.

Snorkel - behind the passenger seat, no rear window - at easy cruising speeds, I don't notice 'much' intake noise but there is a drone. When I'm trying to push the skinny pedal through the radiator, it 'might' get really noisy but I'm pretty dang preoccupied under those conditions, so the intake drone takes a back seat. Regardless, I can't ride in a Talon without hearing protection and a helmet alone isn't enough.

I copied Hondabob's snorkel idea because it keeps the goofy stock intake plenum. I'm not sure if it's for tuning or noise control, maybe both but I didn't want to remove it for either reason.

The goofy intake plenum, stock config -
View attachment 319974

Modded for the snorkel riser -
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Outside -
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How does that compare to original configuration as far as noise?

 

[CumminsPusher]

Short version - maybe ...

I took friends for rides, both of us wearing earmuffs. I dropped the muffs to say something at ~25 mph and was stunned at the mechanical noise the Talon makes, it was painful. I immediately gave up on any conversation. It surprised me because I'm usually wearing earplugs inside my helmet.

Snorkel - behind the passenger seat, no rear window - at easy cruising speeds, I don't notice 'much' intake noise but there is a drone. When I'm trying to push the skinny pedal through the radiator, it 'might' get really noisy but I'm pretty dang preoccupied under those conditions, so the intake drone takes a back seat. Regardless, I can't ride in a Talon without hearing protection and a helmet alone isn't enough.

I copied Hondabob's snorkel idea because it keeps the goofy stock intake plenum. I'm not sure if it's for tuning or noise control, maybe both but I didn't want to remove it for either reason.

The goofy intake plenum, stock config -
View attachment 319974

Modded for the snorkel riser -
View attachment 319975

Outside -
View attachment 319976

Your experience on noise is definitely different then I had. In 4wd it has a little bit but I feel very quiet.

 

[Remington]

Your experience on noise is definitely different then I had. In 4wd it has a little bit but I feel very quiet.

You, I and a small elite amount of people have the front snorkel through the hood on our P1’s . It makes a very distinct sound when goosed!
one must experience it i the cockpit to appreciate it.

 

[CID]

Have you ran rear window?

Not yet. I have one and can't get the dang gasket to seat around the edge ... so I'm pouting. 😢

How does that compare to original configuration as far as noise?

I don't know, I put it on before the first ride. The 3 Talons I've been in have all had snorkels behind the passenger seat. And all three were too loud for my comfort level.

Your experience on noise is definitely different then I had. In 4wd it has a little bit but I feel very quiet.

My ears ring so bad now that I'm very careful not to let it get worse.

 

[Smitty335]

You, I and a small elite amount of people have the front snorkel through the hood on our P1’s . It makes a very distinct sound when goosed!
one must experience it i the cockpit to appreciate it.

Thats why I've never snorkeled mine, I've experienced that way to much of that and wear hearing aids now.

 

[Smitty335]

Not yet. I have one and can't get the dang gasket to seat around the edge ... so I'm pouting. 😢

I don't know, I put it on before the first ride. The 3 Talons I've been in have all had snorkels behind the passenger seat. And all three were too loud for my comfort level.

My ears ring so bad now that I'm very careful not to let it get worse.

Hearing aids will help with that.

 

[CumminsPusher]

You, I and a small elite amount of people have the front snorkel through the hood on our P1’s . It makes a very distinct sound when goosed!
one must experience it i the cockpit to appreciate it.

Going through the gears especially low😍 I like it around the rubber band clan. Not obnoxious though, just high rpm’s.

 

[CID]

Going through the gears especially low😍 I like it around the rubber band clan.

I always make sure 'they' know I'm drivin' a 6 speed, shifter kart. #zoomzoom 😎

 

[CumminsPusher]

Thats why I've never snorkeled mine, I've experienced that way to much of that and wear hearing aids now.

What??

 

[CumminsPusher]

I always make sure 'they' know I'm drivin' a 6 speed, shifter kart. #zoomzoom 😎

Me too. Sometimes run in low when not necessary, paddle more then needed and rev limit with engine breaking popping exhaust downhill 🤣🤣 funny the lack of break lights following a Honda hard bumper to bumper through the woods.

 

[Smitty335]

Me too. Sometimes run in low when not necessary, paddle more then needed and rev limit with engine breaking popping exhaust downhill 🤣🤣 funny the lack of break lights following a Honda hard bumper to bumper through the woods.

The, brake pads last along time! GN!

 

[Remington]

Going through the gears especially low😍 I like it around the rubber band clan. Not obnoxious though, just high rpm’s.

Kinda like a slight gurgling sound!
go around a corner step on it and berrrrrAAAPPP

 

[Boundertom]

I am still happy with my Hondabob style snorkle, with the prefilter under the roof, in front of the rear window. I installed that before I ever rode the machine. 3200 miles and neither filter has needed to be cleaned or replaced. YMMV.

 

[KenThompson]

Been glancing around a little and haven’t seen anything, but considering a front snorkel on the Talon. Been thinking about it since Talon was introduced.
I know what some will say as I’ve been there with Pioneer but overall I really like the front intake on Pioneer and have been completely satisfied since I added the Joey snorkel.
Both my local Talon friends have to change filters out on big ride weekends, I know some has to do with back window, but I change filter in front snorkeled Pioneer at 4500 (kinda bad) nothing like Talon though. In summer we ride same very dusty conditions.
Front air is always cleaner, I don’t want the noise level with snorkeled rear intake and to get cleaner air there you have to go above the roof which is a no go in these woods. I’m not a maintenance guy so don’t want a pre filter.
Any ideas or anyone seen anything??

Donaldson canister - high flow - very little dust even gets to the filter and way cheaper than the S&B

 

[Djbunkerking]

Donaldson canister - high flow - very little dust even gets to the filter and way cheaper than the S&BView attachment 320170

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This is the route I will likely go. Happen to have a PN for the housing you used, and do you keep the filter in the Donaldson as well?

 

[Teebow]

No, but this is the closest thing. My S&B mounted behind a rear window just below the Tusk roof. Those "vents" push air down right in front of the intake. Works like a charm...

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That’s a sweet ride. How many do you own, if you don’t mind saying?

 

[sporttrac4x4]

Honda needs to do a lot of improvements on the Talon before I will buy one.

 

[KenThompson]

This is the route I will likely go. Happen to have a PN for the housing you used, and do you keep the filter in the Donaldson as well?

couldnt find the part number. I remember they offer 3” and 4”. The housing was $80-$90, filter was $20-$30, the top spin was expensive $300. If you don’t have a turbo, you could prolly use a smaller one.

 

[hondatalonr]

If you don't remove and throw away the Honda intake tube that attaches to air box there is no intake noise at all. That tube is engineered to quite intake noise. Hond Bob's intake uses the tube and I have no intake noise. I had an XP900 Polaris and it made a lot of intake noise right behind my head.