P1000 Tie rods

[Phantomhunter1]

Just wondering if someone can tell me if the 2022 Pioneer 1000-5 tie rods and ends will fit on a 2021 Pioneer 1000-5? I thought I remembered reading that somewhere, but couldn't find it. It also looks like the 22' model only has one end that works on both left and right sides. Just wanted to make sure tie rods and ball joints from the 22' will work on a 21'. Thanks

 

[Remington]

Yup I belive so. @Plumber32 either has or knows someone that has and with more info

 

[JenElio]

Just wondering if someone can tell me if the 2022 Pioneer 1000-5 tie rods and ends will fit on a 2021 Pioneer 1000-5? I thought I remembered reading that somewhere, but couldn't find it. It also looks like the 22' model only has one end that works on both left and right sides. Just wanted to make sure tie rods and ball joints from the 22' will work on a 21'. Thanks

Few guys around here have swapped over. Not 100% sure but maybe
@TripleB
@ToddACimer
I think @Homer might've changed them also. I'm sure some of them might help you out.

Good luck

 

[Phantomhunter1]

Thanks guys. I'm just wanting to get some spares to have and they look a bit beefier.

 

[JenElio]

Thanks guys. I'm just wanting to get some spares to have and they look a bit beefier.

I don't know how good they would work for spares, I believe they're not compatible at all with the previous models. I think you'd have to change 100% over to the new design and then carry spares for that.

If you're just wanting some spare parts then I'd stick with the matching ones you have now. Ronayers.com has OEM stuff pretty inexpensive. I think I got all nee ball joints and 2 spare tie rods for about $100.

 

[Phantomhunter1]

I don't know how good they would work for spares, I believe they're not compatible at all with the previous models. I think you'd have to change 100% over to the new design and then carry spares for that.

If you're just wanting some spare parts then I'd stick with the matching ones you have now. Ronayers.com has OEM stuff pretty inexpensive. I think I got all nee ball joints and 2 spare tie rods for about $100.

Ok. Thank you. I got a gift card to local Honda dealership and thought I'd get some spare parts. Maybe I'll just stick with 21' parts.

 

[TripleB]

Ok. Thank you. I got a gift card to local Honda dealership and thought I'd get some spare parts. Maybe I'll just stick with 21' parts.

I swapped both of my machines to the new tie rods. I carried my old complete tie rod with me for a spare until I got some spare updated tie rods. I've not bent one of the new ones yet.

 

[Phantomhunter1]

So I'd be able to swap the new 22' to a 21' without changing anything else? Like the steering rack or steering knuckle? Didn't know if the threads on the rack end and ball joints were same size.

 

[TripleB]

So I'd be able to swap the new 22' to a 21' without changing anything else? Like the steering rack or steering knuckle? Didn't know if the threads on the rack end and ball joints were same size.

Yes.

 

[TripleB]

Yes.

The boot is the same. You need inner and outer tie rod ends, tie rod and 3 different nuts, for each side. You can reuse your boots or buy new ones.

 

[TripleB]

I just use zip ties on my boots now. I've not had any problems with water getting in them using zip ties either.

 

[Phantomhunter1]

Yes.

Perfect. Thank you all for the responses. I did see the additional parts in the breakdown. BTW, I enjoy seeing your trail pics you post. I'm hoping to make it down to Takeover at some point and ride some actual mountain trails. Mostly flat everywhere I typically use my Pioneer.

 

[Plumber32]

Go with the new setup. It's way more stout.

 

[ToddACimer]

I haven't seen a 2022 with a bent outer tie rod yet. I was hard on mine all last summer, just order 3 of all the parts

 

[Plumber32]

I haven't seen a 2022 with a bent outer tie rod yet. I was hard on mine all last summer, just order 3 of all the parts

Basically the same setup as the talon and it's extremely rare to bend one of those.